Just registered for the free MSF course that New Jersey offers!!! - Sportbike Addicts

tsxguy77 · 02-14-2007, 10:54 AM

So last year I wanted to take the MSF course but really didnt have the cash, and then I found out that New Jersey offers a free 3 day course, bike included! But you can only call in once a week for a period of 3.5 hours to schedule an appointment for a later date, and last year I tried many attempts and I could never get through. It was very frustrating!

Anyway, Today is the first day they are starting scheduling again and I almost forgot about this thing until yesterday. So I called up and after 25 minutes on hold, I GOT THROUGH!

So now Im taking my class on March 30,31 & April 1st.

Here is the link for any other NJ riders.

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/..._safety.htm#a1

sonny · 02-14-2007, 10:55 AM

Good class. Teaches you good fundamentals.

I took it. I want to do the Advanced Rider Class before I move to maryland..

Retom7 · 02-14-2007, 12:11 PM

Damn, I wish it was free in NY... I spent like $250

Great course though, have fun!

High_Revs_17 · 02-14-2007, 03:03 PM

If/when you pass be sure to contact your auto & bike ins. co.'s cuz they might offer you a discount on your policy being this class is a state certified safety course.

Retom7 · 02-14-2007, 07:07 PM

I don't know if it's the same as NY, but after the NY course, it also count towards auto insurance... and points on your driver's license.

CBRBob · 02-15-2007, 09:06 AM

The class is the same across the country except Oregon. The reason it's free is that the state is stealing the $5 that is tacked onto every motorcycle license renewal to give only a few hundered riders a free class instead of reducing the cost of the class by at least $50 to EVERYONE that takes the class in NJ. So feel good that it's free because it's not, it's costing all of us some $$. I don't mind the $5. I do mind the state grabbing the money to run a class costing several times the going rate. It's like the $700 hammer you hear about.

Depending on your ins. carrier they MAY give you some discount. In NJ, if you take the ERC, they MUST give you a discount on your car ins. (bike carriers might not) and can take pts off your lic. because the ERC is considered a Defensive Driver Course.

www.renj.com

tsxguy77 · 02-15-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRBob

The reason it's free is that the state is stealing the $5 that is tacked onto every motorcycle license renewal to give only a few hundered riders a free class instead of reducing the cost of the class by at least $50 to EVERYONE that takes the class in NJ. So feel good that it's free because it's not, it's costing all of us some $$. I don't mind the $5. I do mind the state grabbing the money to run a class costing several times the going rate. It's like the $700 hammer you hear about.

Well if its a $5 charge they tack onto license renewal, Thats great still because you only have to renew the license every 4 years, so if I ride a motorcycle for 40 years until I am 70 years old, I will only pay $5 every four years which is only $50 total for a class I would have paid about $250 for, so I dont know where you are getting that $700 hammer idea from.

ZeRo_C0oL · 02-15-2007, 11:19 AM

That's cool that it's so cheap for you guys, even WITH the catch where you're technically paying for it..

ffejtable · 02-15-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tsxguy77

Well if its a $5 charge they tack onto license renewal, Thats great still because you only have to renew the license every 4 years, so if I ride a motorcycle for 40 years until I am 70 years old, I will only pay $5 every four years which is only $50 total for a class I would have paid about $250 for, so I dont know where you are getting that $700 hammer idea from.

*YOU* may have only paid $50 in your lifetime, but maybe 1 in every 25 rider in the state of NJ can even take the class (limited availability). so you multiply that $50 those 25 riders have paid throughout their lifetime and you are actually up to $1250 per per person that the state receives. Of course not everybody has their license for 40 years, but chances are the 1:25 ratio is also closer to 1:100....

tsxguy77 · 02-15-2007, 12:55 PM

Well yeah. But anything the state/government does for us, we have to pay for. Thats what taxes are for. So it is really cool that NJ does this for everyone that is lucky enough to get through on the phone lines. I tried for a few months last season. No lie, I was on hold for the limit, because after an hour or so I would get a message to try and call back again. It was so frustrating! But Im glad I beat the rush this year.

tsxguy77 · 02-15-2007, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ffejtable

*YOU* may have only paid $50 in your lifetime, but maybe 1 in every 25 rider in the state of NJ can even take the class (limited availability). so you multiply that $50 those 25 riders have paid throughout their lifetime and you are actually up to $1250 per per person that the state receives. Of course not everybody has their license for 40 years, but chances are the 1:25 ratio is also closer to 1:100....

Oh well, not my problem. Anyone can take it if they want to. Just gotta be patient and make some phone calls. So anyway, the most *I* will pay for this is $50 and thats awesome! Everything else is irrelevant to me.

liquiddevil2000 · 02-15-2007, 01:27 PM

this is getting too technical for me...
i dotn care..i got a florida license and took the calss down there for free..lol

Technochick · 02-15-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by liquiddevil2000

this is getting too technical for me...
i dotn care..i got a florida license and took the calss down there for free..lol

How did you take the class for free in FL? It cost me $170.

Well worth EVERY penny too!!

CBRBob · 02-15-2007, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tsxguy77

Oh well, not my problem.

Yea, so when your tax bill doubles next year don't bitch because we all have to pay in. Thats the mentality that puts asswipes like Corzine in power. Having the govt. run this is just what we DON'T need. It costing riders several times the amt. the going rate and people saying its free. Signing up for welfare anytime soon?

Hey it's no $ out of my pocket, I can't teach enough to keep up with the demand. I just want you to know that the class is in no way free and free does not always = good.

High_Revs_17 · 02-16-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRBob

Yea, so when your tax bill doubles next year don't bitch because we all have to pay in. Thats the mentality that puts asswipes like Corzine in power. Having the govt. run this is just what we DON'T need. It costing riders several times the amt. the going rate and people saying its free. Signing up for welfare anytime soon?

Hey it's no $ out of my pocket, I can't teach enough to keep up with the demand. I just want you to know that the class is in no way free and free does not always = good.

Is the format the same as Rider-Ed, or are they more forgiving due to their rates, or lack there of?