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Old 12-11-2008, 10:15 AM   #1
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Bikers won't like sound of this!
BY FRANK LOMBARDI
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Thursday, December 11th 2008, 2:18 AM

Vroooom that noisy motorcycle once too often and the city could own it.

In a new bid to stem motorcycle noise, the City Council is set to pass a bill requiring all bikes to sport tags certifying approval by the Environmental Protection Agency.

No EPA tag, you get a ticket, without the officials having to prove the bike exceeded the 80-decibel limit set by the city's noise code.

"Today we go a long way toward taking the squeal out of the hogs," said Peter Vallone (D-Queens), chairing a final bill hearing Wednesday in the Public Safety Committee.

Under the bill, expected to pass the full Council Dec. 18, a first conviction carries a maximum $1,000 fine and temporary confiscation until the penalty is paid.

A second conviction hikes the maximum fine to $2,500 and imposes permanent forfeiture.

NYPD Lt. Daniel Albano testified that existing laws require cops to catch noisy motorcyclists in the act, which is difficult and can entail potentially hazardous chases.

The new measure would let single officers on foot patrol - or other city agents - ticket parked motorcycles, he said.

It gives police "an extra tool to get at what is truly a serious problem," said Councilman Alan Gerson (D-Manhattan), who crafted the bill based on a law in use in Denver.

But biker Bill Ferraro, president of the Union Ironworkers Motorcycle Club, Local 580, testified that "it's unsafe for us to ride when the pipes are too low."

He also said the city can't close its budget gap "with confiscation of bikes and seizure."

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Old 12-11-2008, 10:30 AM   #2
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more liberal gayness spreading throughout our country.
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Old 12-11-2008, 10:37 AM   #3
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But biker Bill Ferraro, president of the Union Ironworkers Motorcycle Club, Local 580, testified that "it's unsafe for us to ride when the pipes are too low."
What a brilliant quote... being an unsafe rider makes you unsafe when you ride... not having low pipes... Just a typical cruiser rider that equates his bike as being cool with how loud it is..

But, this new bill does not sound like fun... we had an 80 decibel law pass in the city and county of Denver, but nothing where we'd have to get an EPA sticker or parked bikes being ticketed. We can get a hefty fine for having a bike that's over 80 decibels, but I've only seen it really enforced if someone is riding like an asshat, is pulled over and the officer writes him the ticket for the pipe as well..
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Ok keep your stock pipes...put them on get a tag...then put your aftermarket exhaust on and tell the dumb pigs to fuck off....or just go to the track.....and why if they propose a new law based on wanting to make the city quietier is it liberal gayness.....you get ticketed in areas of NYC for honking...what's the difference.
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They better include cars and trucks exhausts in this too, just to be fair you know. Don't forget sound systems too.

Noise is noise, no matter what the source.
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They better include cars and trucks exhausts in this too, just to be fair you know. Don't forget sound systems too.

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Old 12-11-2008, 02:37 PM   #7
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80 db? Ant farts louder than that
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:49 PM   #8
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80 db? Ant farts louder than that
He might need one of these then.

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Old 12-11-2008, 03:18 PM   #9
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They better include cars and trucks exhausts in this too, just to be fair you know. Don't forget sound systems too.

Noise is noise, no matter what the source.
Exactly.

fyi -

• 140 Jet engines

• 130 Shotgun firing, jet takeoff from 100 to 200 feet

• 120 Boombox, thunderclap

• 110-140 Rock concert

• 110-125 Stereos over 100 watts

• 110 Chainsaw, jackhammer

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• 80 Average city traffic, garbage disposal

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• 70 Vacuum cleaner, hair dryer

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• 50-60 Quiet office

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• 30 Whisper

• 20 Rustling leaves

• 10 Normal breathing

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80 db? Ant farts louder than that
Does that mean his ass needs an EPA tag???

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Ok keep your stock pipes...put them on get a tag...then put your aftermarket exhaust on and tell the dumb pigs to fuck off....or just go to the track.....and why if they propose a new law based on wanting to make the city quietier is it liberal gayness.....you get ticketed in areas of NYC for honking...what's the difference.
Actually, it will most likely be a stamp that is put onto the exhausts... actually engraved into the exhaust. It would look something like this (which is not found on aftermarket exhausts):

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Old 12-11-2008, 04:13 PM   #11
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more liberal gayness spreading throughout our country.
be careful picking on ron. you might get banned like i did
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:44 PM   #12
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you can do what I'm doing with my aprilia exahust and just core it. Still looks stock but basically a stright pipe.
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although I don't even think my exhuast is stamped at all. I don't know i'll take a look when I'm ripping it apart next week.
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my thing... you know how many times loud pipes on the streets have saved lives when cars dont see you..... just my 2 cents
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:11 PM   #15
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Don't you just LOVE it when polititians come up with ways to limit choice....and charge you for it...

Don't suppose they will be handing those "EPA" test stickers out for free either.

NYC Council...DemocRATS of course, "looking out for the common person"and screwing them, as usual

If there is an issue ,problem,thought,breath,dream....anything... TAX IT !!!!!!

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