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Old 09-29-2006, 10:30 PM   #16
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Old 09-30-2006, 07:04 AM   #17
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That was for Smokin' Joe's b-day.
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Old 09-30-2006, 08:54 AM   #18
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which do you think is bigger, the skid marks on the road or the ones in his drawers?
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Old 09-30-2006, 09:08 AM   #19
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Ok, back on topic, and the meaning for the post...all they had to was stay on the gas and they would of made the bend no problem. The bike can do alot more than you think, its usually a riders ability (or inability I should say) that get them in trouble...Throttle is your friend(most of the time.)
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Dude, That rider panicked plain and simple. If he stayed on the gas he would've hit the car that much faster... He never even commited to the turn.
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Old 09-30-2006, 03:55 PM   #21
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Dude, That rider panicked plain and simple. If he stayed on the gas he would've hit the car that much faster... He never even commited to the turn.
No he wouldn't of...throttle modulation would of helped keep the bike leaned over...Of course that rider paniced...thats my point. Panicing automatically send a message to the brain, telling the rider to roll off the throttle...slow the bike down...it's just a natural reaction. Problem with this reaction is due to centrifical force(or the lack thereof) the bike stands up, rider fixates, boom, you're done. But in this situation, just the opposite would of had a better outcome. How can one commit to a turn while they're rolling off and the bike is standing up? Ok, so if they would of stayed on the gas, keep it leaned, all while lookin where they wanted to go, then would they of made it? This is exactly what happened to me T1 at Summit, thought I was coming in to hot, no throttle, bike drifting left, fixated on the ground, paniced, tapped the brake(I knew not to do this but did it anyway, chalking it up to inexperience) while leaned over, tucked the front. Now, had I just continue to modulate the throttle, looked through to T3 and keept leaning, I would of been fine.
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Old 09-30-2006, 07:36 PM   #22
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I think everyone's missing the major point of that clip, it's probably one of the best damn saves I've ever seen!
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Best, No. Possibly the luckiest. On or off the throttle, all
he had to do was TURN THE BIKE. Lack of experience and panic.
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On or off the throttle, all he had to do was TURN THE BIKE.
Bingo.
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: Problem with this reaction is due to centrifical force(or the lack thereof) the bike stands up, rider fixates, boom, you're done. But in this situation, just the opposite would of had a better outcome. How can one commit to a turn while they're rolling off and the bike is standing up? Ok, so if they would of stayed on the gas, keep it leaned, all while lookin where they wanted to go, then would they of made it? This is exactly what happened to me T1 at Summit, thought I was coming in to hot, no throttle, bike drifting left, fixated on the ground, paniced, tapped the brake(I knew not to do this but did it anyway, chalking it up to inexperience) while leaned over, tucked the front. Now, had I just continue to modulate the throttle, looked through to T3 and keept leaning, I would of been fine.
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Joe, Just where are you getting your info? Did you form these theories yourself? Centrifugal force has nothing to do with motorcycles. I think your talking about gyroscopic force.

To answer your question. Yes. If the rider had Looked where he wanted to go, Turned the bike, and stayed on the throttle in that order he would have easily made the turn. Theres no disputing the bikes capability of making that turn at that speed.
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Old 10-01-2006, 08:55 AM   #26
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I think your talking about gyroscopic force.
Yea, that too
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