workingout..

[Cakes206]

Whos yer trainer? Anyone I would know?

[Cakes206]

Originally Posted by soda7o

now you tell me this ..lol
i have two dislocated shoulders and baby my shouders as well but everytime i do the stupid peck deck machine my shoulders are killing me.. now i know why ...
i will stay away from that machine
i am learning things on here.. and maybe illstop killing my shoulders from now on...

Just remember that the peck deck is a shaping exercise. Should not be going heavy at all...low weight, adjust your position and really isolate the center chest fibers. I too have bad shoulders and can use the peck deck w/o major issues(I know everyones situation is different, but we learn to work around them.)

[soda7o]

Originally Posted by Cakes982

Just remember that the peck deck is a shaping exercise. Should not be going heavy at all...low weight, adjust your position and really isolate the center chest fibers. I too have bad shoulders and can use the peck deck w/o major issues(I know everyones situation is different, but we learn to work around them.)

i have very limited range of motion n my shoulders left worst than right...

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Cakes982

Whos yer trainer? Anyone I would know?

His name is Bill Cummings he is 5'8" and usually steps on stage around 235-238 lbs. He's going for his pro-card soon. He's not from around here.

We do all the work through the internet and come show time he's flying in.

Originally Posted by soda7o

now you tell me this ..lol
i have two dislocated shoulders and baby my shouders as well but everytime i do the stupid peck deck machine my shoulders are killing me.. now i know why ...
i will stay away from that machine
i am learning things on here.. and maybe illstop killing my shoulders from now on...

i really wish i had a normal workout partner.. instead of my stupid friend that only does arms and chest... (i made him do back and shoudlers withme and he was in pain for about a week crying and bitching to me..)

Like Joe said. LEARN TO LISTEN TO YOUR BODY!

The reason i cannot use the pec deck is because of the specific movement. Its called anterior rotation and its the SPECIFIC movement that i know could injure my shoulder. Imagine this. Basically, point your left arm out now bend your elbow 90 degrees up. Any movement backwards will be going EXACTLY against the repair done on my shoulder.

Thus, i will feel pressure as i move up on this axis. Thats why decline doesn't bother me, flat bothers me some, incline bothers me more, military press/db shoulder press along with pec deck bother me the most.

For some its just the opposite...learn to listen to your body.

[soda7o]

Originally Posted by Jay

His name is Bill Cummings he is 5'8" and usually steps on stage around 235-238 lbs. He's going for his pro-card soon. He's not from around here.

We do all the work through the internet and come show time he's flying in.



Like Joe said. LEARN TO LISTEN TO YOUR BODY!

The reason i cannot use the pec deck is because of the specific movement. Its called anterior rotation and its the SPECIFIC movement that i know could injure my shoulder. Imagine this. Basically, point your left arm out now bend your elbow 90 degrees up. Any movement backwards will be going EXACTLY against the repair done on my shoulder.

Thus, i will feel pressure as i move up on this axis. Thats why decline doesn't bother me, flat bothers me some, incline bothers me more, military press/db shoulder press along with pec deck bother me the most.

For some its just the opposite...learn to listen to your body.

my body is telling me... OUCH YOU FICKIN G IDIOT STOP THAT SHIT!

[Cakes206]

Originally Posted by soda7o

my body is telling me... OUCH YOU FICKIN G IDIOT STOP THAT SHIT!

LMFAO!

Also, stay away from behind the neck movements, i.e. rear lat pull downs, behind the neck military presses. These movements force the shoulders in a bad position...everything to the front.

Originally Posted by Jay

He wants me to avoide injury being that my energy will be low.

Hmm...thats something I never heard of. If my energy was low, I just wouldn't be able to throw up the heavy weight. The thing I was always told to look out for was heavy training within a week after a show...being the muscle fills up with sodium/water its easy to pull something. I know you're probably all set, but if theres anything I can help ya out with let me know, even moral support.

[Cakes206]

Originally Posted by soda7o

i am learning things on here..

The bill is in the mail

Seriously though...all this crap I talk about I had to learn the hard way thru experience. There was a point I wouldn't help anyone anymore because they took my advice for granted and not listen...a big waste of my time. G'luck.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Cakes982

LMFAO!

Also, stay away from behind the neck movements, i.e. rear lat pull downs, behind the neck military presses. These movements force the shoulders in a bad position...everything to the front.

Yes that would be a VERY good idea. those are notorious for destroying shoulders.

Originally Posted by Cakes982

Hmm...thats something I never heard of. The thing I was always told to look out for was heavy training within a week after a show...being the muscle fills up with sodium/water its easy to pull something. I know you're probably all set, but if theres anything I can help ya out with let me know, even moral support.

Well you gotta figure, less carbs = less energy. Plus i am only resting 30 sec.- 1 min. between sets.

[Cakes206]

Originally Posted by Jay

Well you gotta figure, less carbs = less energy.

Well yea...I would just drop the weight a lil..unless I was training with this dude Scotty...fugger made me puke during legs

[Ant]

I got the bad shoulders too but the peck deck doesn't bother me for some reason. Military presses just make my shoulders click pop and crack.

As far as Cakes' advice, I would listen to him. That's what I've been doing and I've noticed some BIG improvements in myself. And all I did was what he told me.