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Bster13 · 02-12-2006, 05:45 PM

Forgot to emphasize the air fences. That's a HUGE reason for TPM. they will even let other organizations use them as long as those organization take care of setup and transport, but they don't seem to take them up on the offer.

AfricanBootyScratcher · 02-12-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wcrbikemike

it is really more like a family reunion at every event than anything else.

wow, that is soooo acurate. The day always begins and ends with hugs, and in between really good times in a safe and educational atmosphere. TPM makes it very easy to become "a part" of the club, not just a paying member. Everyone seems to have a vested intrest in helping each other achieve thier individual goals. be it the ART Basic guy just trying to get through the day in one piece, or the blue group rider who's looking for that extra bit of smoothness.

wcrbikemike · 02-12-2006, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bster13

Forgot to emphasize the air fences. That's a HUGE reason for TPM. they will even let other organizations use them as long as those organization take care of setup and transport, but they don't seem to take them up on the offer.

I did not forget, I rolled that into the safety thing. But since you mention it, yeah they do loan it to other orginazations and that says alot about the care and trust of the organization.

Bster13 · 02-13-2006, 10:04 AM

I set those things up as much as I can. Omar paid one a visit @ PIR one time I remember. Good stuff!

Do other organization double up on White/beginner groups as well where they are running a White I and White II? Thus limiting time on the track?

ffejtable · 02-13-2006, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Bster13

I set those things up as much as I can. Omar paid one a visit @ PIR one time I remember. Good stuff!

Do other organization double up on White/beginner groups as well where they are running a White I and White II? Thus limiting time on the track?

TPM has tradtionally only done this at Pocono, from what Linda was telling me last year.. They did it on one of the VIR dates, and I was a little upset about it and told her this. How can I eb sure that when I sign up they arent going to go with 2 groups each, cutting my session down to 10 mins each.. TPM has been growing fast, and I want the assurance that as they grow larger, they arent going to compromise a) my safety by putting too many people out at a time b) my riding time by creating more groups....

Ant · 02-13-2006, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bster13

Forgot to emphasize the air fences. That's a HUGE reason for TPM. they will even let other organizations use them as long as those organization take care of setup and transport, but they don't seem to take them up on the offer.

Oh yeah, this is huge, I forgot to emphasize this in my post.

Bster13 · 02-13-2006, 04:08 PM

I'm with you. Traditions are nice and all, but I don't want any new traditions started at any other tracks haha.

SPRHK · 02-13-2006, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Bster13

I set those things up as much as I can. Omar paid one a visit @ PIR one time I remember. Good stuff!

Do other organization double up on White/beginner groups as well where they are running a White I and White II? Thus limiting time on the track?

It is my experience with Nesba that there are only so many openings per group per track. Different tracks of course change the # of participants in each group with varied track lengths / speeds. In the 6 years with Nesba, I never encountered any "double" groups.

***Cakes206*** · 02-13-2006, 08:25 PM

On the flip side, a track day with fewer people and TPM will combine two groups, gaining even more track time.
Jennings will do this as well, but I've seen them make it "Open Track" after lunch...no sessions...just go out when you want, pit when you want.

Lorenzo · 02-13-2006, 08:41 PM

you love the cock

CBRBob · 02-13-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cakes

On the flip side, a track day with fewer people and TPM will combine two groups, gaining even more track time.
Jennings will do this as well, but I've seen them make it "Open Track" after lunch...no sessions...just go out when you want, pit when you want.

Yea, we did that a few times this year.

pillaka · 02-14-2006, 11:51 PM

If you want to be in smaller groups, work on getting smoother and more comfortable on the bike, then you get bumped up! The advantages to getting bumped up are smaller groups. White group, espicially pocono is booked a month or so ahead already. Red group you can wait a little closer, and most of the time will have an opening. No one seems to be in blue group, I signed up for pocono a few times literally a few days before the event and always got in.

Bster13 · 02-15-2006, 01:26 AM

That's true that higher groups have lesser people usually, but it still doesn't excuse doubling up on White group and limiting track time. That affects all levels of riders on a given day. If they use this practice, the riders should know about the possibility prior to laying down the dough.

wcrbikemike · 02-16-2006, 08:50 PM

It is not done that often. When I have seen this it is because there were so many people in art basic that they divided into a white group and an art basic group (2nd white group). There is usually not a lack of track time though.

Maybe CBR Bob and add more light to this.

***Cakes206*** · 02-16-2006, 09:37 PM

Less crashes, more track time...thats all there is to it...a 4th group(which again comes down to saftey) doesn't really affect much as long as the # of times the crash truck has to go out is kept to a minimum.