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Old 12-06-2005, 09:18 AM   #76
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One thing I do recommend...do you first trackday with Team Pro-Motion. It's a great club. Very beginner friendly.
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Well I seem to remember reading on some other site how fast some of its 'non-track' riding members were. Then someone arranged a dozen of them to come to the track. All sorts of bikes. ALL had a great time despite some running off the track(I thought one guy who stopped by a female corner worker was trying to get her number) and some realizing that they can ride 150hp on a track slowly(comparatively) and still have fun!

Relax about that bike you have. If you can have 2 bikes, great. If not, great, you can still ride it!
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Old 12-06-2005, 12:50 PM   #77
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I started on a liter bike. I am not saying that I am very fast. I am not. But I have 6500 miles and absolutely no crashes; never dropped the bike. You get used to that power. You explore your bike step by step. You will be just fine.
Is anyone else alarmed by this comment? 6500 miles and never dropping your bike does not make you a seasoned rider! It makes you a new rider still learning the sport.

I think it's great that you want to get on the track, regardless what organization you choose to join, but I hope you come back from the experience humbled and grounded. I also hope you will be able to come back after your first track day experience and re-read this thread. It might be a little easier to understand what everyone is saying and the outpouring of care and concern we all have for you.

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Good luck at the track next year and I hope you do well.
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Old 12-06-2005, 01:09 PM   #78
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This is the perfect dual purpose bike. It comes with 2 sets of wheels so you can switch from track to dirt no problemo!

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Old 12-06-2005, 02:06 PM   #79
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Is anyone else alarmed by this comment? 6500 miles and never dropping your bike does not make you a seasoned rider! It makes you a new rider still learning the sport.
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Old 12-06-2005, 02:23 PM   #80
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Conversely, my first crash happened at the track.
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Conversely, my first crash happened at the track.
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Old 12-06-2005, 05:27 PM   #82
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originally, didn't you ask about switching setups back and forth?
so in an effort to answer your original question............
I used to be able to swap my bike over in under two hours, it's an 01 GSXR600. this includes, full bodywork, fairing stay, and wheels, suspension/chassis setup, etc...
this year, about half way through the season, I started doing more days and just got sick of it. I now have an old cb650 nighthawk and a superhawk for the street, so the gsxr just stays in track form.

and to get into what this thing spawned into, if you already have that ZX10, by all means bring it to the track! ride what you got. on the other hand if you were looking to get a bike I would certainly NOT recomend that machine, but the fact remains that you ALREADY have it, so bring it. plus being on the track will teach you so much about that machine. If you do get another machine, don't worry about the "ice skate phenomena" you were worried about. It don't matter, your body and brain will know the difference. Hell I rode the exact same machine very differently track vs. street!
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Old 12-06-2005, 10:24 PM   #83
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i lost count of how many times i've crashed
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Is anyone else alarmed by this comment? 6500 miles and never dropping your bike does not make you a seasoned rider! It makes you a new rider still learning the sport.

I think it's great that you want to get on the track, regardless what organization you choose to join, but I hope you come back from the experience humbled and grounded. I also hope you will be able to come back after your first track day experience and re-read this thread. It might be a little easier to understand what everyone is saying and the outpouring of care and concern we all have for you.

Money means nothing if you're not smart

Good luck at the track next year and I hope you do well.
Well, there is only one comment I would like to leave here...
You can not make money (I mean make, not win money), if you are NOT smart. This is the reality. And again...I would like to mention it to you: Please do not think that everyone is the same. This assumption is wrong.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:07 AM   #85
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Conversely, my first crash happened at the track.
I was not saying that I WILL do good on the track. All I was saying is that a lot of people told me that if I start on a liter bike I WILL DROP IT. And not even once...Most likely within my first 3,000 miles. Well, it didn't happen. And I am NOT claiming that it won't happen. I am NOT claiming that I will do excellent on the track. I am not claiming that I WON'T crash on the track. All I am saying is that EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. And you can not assume that everyone will experience the same problem as some one else did. Just because we have different genetics, intelligence level, experience, knowledge...etc.
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I was not saying that I WILL do good on the track. All I was saying is that a lot of people told me that if I start on a liter bike I WILL DROP IT. And not even once...Most likely within my first 3,000 miles. Well, it didn't happen. And I am NOT claiming that it won't happen. I am NOT claiming that I will do excellent on the track. I am not claiming that I WON'T crash on the track. All I am saying is that EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. And you can not assume that everyone will experience the same problem as some one else did. Just because we have different genetics, intelligence level, experience, knowledge...etc.
Time out -- I didn't say YOU WOULD CRASH. All I said is MY FIRST CRASH happened at the track... read again, man. Jesus.

I make a joke about MYSELF and YOU get defensive. I could care less what you ride on the street or on the track, how many times you've crashed or how many miles you've ridden with or without getting hurt. Ride to have fun, ride to race, ride to do whatever you'd like. The track is fun, you'll enjoy it.

I'm done with this thread. Enjoy!
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:14 AM   #87
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originally, didn't you ask about switching setups back and forth?
so in an effort to answer your original question............
I used to be able to swap my bike over in under two hours, it's an 01 GSXR600. this includes, full bodywork, fairing stay, and wheels, suspension/chassis setup, etc...
this year, about half way through the season, I started doing more days and just got sick of it. I now have an old cb650 nighthawk and a superhawk for the street, so the gsxr just stays in track form.

and to get into what this thing spawned into, if you already have that ZX10, by all means bring it to the track! ride what you got. on the other hand if you were looking to get a bike I would certainly NOT recomend that machine, but the fact remains that you ALREADY have it, so bring it. plus being on the track will teach you so much about that machine. If you do get another machine, don't worry about the "ice skate phenomena" you were worried about. It don't matter, your body and brain will know the difference. Hell I rode the exact same machine very differently track vs. street!
I might be able to do that within 3 hours But it is too much pain...So, I figured I better buy a track bike...
[plus being on the track will teach you so much about that machine.]
This is one of the best arguments in this whole discussion! Thank you!
This is why I am going to try both(of course, if I buy another bike by that time).
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Time out -- I didn't say YOU WOULD CRASH. All I said is MY FIRST CRASH happened at the track... read again, man. Jesus.

I make a joke about MYSELF and YOU get defensive. I could care less what you ride on the street or on the track, how many times you've crashed or how many miles you've ridden with or without getting hurt. Ride to have fun, ride to race, ride to do whatever you'd like. The track is fun, you'll enjoy it.

I'm done with this thread. Enjoy!
I am sorry, I didnt mean to be offensive.
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Old 12-07-2005, 12:17 AM   #89
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I said is MY FIRST CRASH happened at the track
And my first crash happened 9 years later ......yur gettin too fast fur yur hardware, time fur highmounts, yur draggin yur shit too much Vin!
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I might be able to do that within 3 hours But it is too much pain...So, I figured I better buy a track bike...
[plus being on the track will teach you so much about that machine.]
This is one of the best arguments in this whole discussion! Thank you!
This is why I am going to try both(of course, if I buy another bike by that time).
Don't let not buying another bike stop you from going to the track, bring what you have. just tape it up and stuff! make sure you like it (you will) then you can worry about getting another bike later.
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