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03-14-2008, 08:58 AM
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Once you panic , and use that stupid rear brake till it locks ,,you better keep it locked until you stop .....because once you release it ....when the bike is still moving during the skid ...The bike will lurch forward and high side ,,,the bike has a effect like a rubber band ....streach a rubber band then slowly ease it back ...now stretch it and release it in a snap [ in a snap is the key word here ] and it flys foreward with energy,,,,,same thing when you release your foot brake in a snap during a hard stop... I should say skid. ..A stoppie is different because your not skidding the back tire..and the front brake is never wrong and not a panic move ....I hope this helps one person when that day comes this summer...
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03-14-2008, 11:31 AM
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true, most highsides occur under acceleration though where the rear breaks loose, you get offf the throttle in a panic and the tire once again grips, except at this point, its' not pointing the same direction that you're moving and weeeeeeeee.
p.s. pay no attention to that rear brake, it causes more trouble than it's worth.
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03-14-2008, 11:36 AM
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p.s. pay no attention to that rear brake, it causes more trouble than it's worth.
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03-14-2008, 11:45 AM
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no usie no rear brakey. rear brakey bad!!!
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03-14-2008, 11:50 AM
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If you took a proper motorcycle instruction course they would teach you to keep the rear brake locked (if you use it) until you come to a complete stop.
I use the rear brake all the time and never have a problem.
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03-14-2008, 02:57 PM
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Like anything else in life, if you don't know how to use it properly then quit playing with it.
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03-14-2008, 05:28 PM
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Not using the rear brake is fine on the track and bad on the street. Never using the rear brake on the street is a bad choice. On the track when you are at 90%+ braking traction, not using the rear(or barely using it) is fine. On the street when most stops would be at much less use of traction, you are giving up a lot of braking force by not using it. Ues the right proportion of brakes for the situation.
FYI, you can lock the rear at speed and release it but you BETTER have the wheels in line or off you go LOL.
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03-14-2008, 05:40 PM
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I use that shit only in straight line, upright stopping, while commuting...very easy with it. If I'm hitting the back roads, I try to forget it's there.
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03-14-2008, 08:19 PM
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There's a back brake on sportbikes?
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03-14-2008, 08:45 PM
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Yes and it can be very useful if you use it when the situation dictates. If you don't you are not using the bike to it's full potential, even at a moderate pace. Don't overuse it, don't ignore it.
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03-14-2008, 09:52 PM
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just use the rear brake ..when your sitting at a red light to light the tail light for aproaching cars ,,, or break it off and canibize the pads for the front ,,,,it could save your life ,,,,,if it cant be done with the front ,it cant be done anyway look for a escape hole and go for it like a man ..
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03-14-2008, 10:26 PM
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Damn Bob, sometimes you sound like a darn coach...
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03-14-2008, 11:22 PM
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Quote:
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Yes and it can be very useful if you use it when the situation dictates. If you don't you are not using the bike to it's full potential, even at a moderate pace. Don't overuse it, don't ignore it.
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03-15-2008, 10:03 AM
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Only the ignorant ignore the rear brake LOL
So I was reading up on why so many MotoGP bikes have steel rear discs and not carbon. They are using that brake, just not enough to get it hot enough for the carbon to heat up enough to work properly. So even at that level, the rear brake is being used.
If you outright ignore it, one time when something unexpected happens you might make an error and go to use it but have zero clue on how the bike will react. It's just another tool that needs to be learned how to be used. Of course it's cool locking up the rear after a long straight with Cakes behind you............
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03-15-2008, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Kennedy
If you took a proper motorcycle instruction course they would teach you to keep the rear brake locked (if you use it) until you come to a complete stop.
I use the rear brake all the time and never have a problem.
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Their is the differance ,,,,,You use it correctly while riding ,me to ,, now there is useing it it in a panic or lock up,,,,,this is the point of the post....So useing the brake is fine ..Having the brake bitch slap you is what we dont see much until it happens ,,,,,this is how to control it,,Wait it out
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