"Timing Retard Eliminator" - Sportbike Addicts

akomplis · 04-26-2006, 09:56 AM

Does this really work?

Sounds like a sure way to void the warranty...

http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mcy/154283368.html

***Cakes206*** · 04-26-2006, 10:07 AM

TRE does work...Not exactly sure, but I think it takes 1st thru 4th and advances the timing to 5th. I've never used one, but people swear by it.

Commuta_Busa · 04-26-2006, 10:12 AM

well at least the got the name TRE = Timing Retard Eliminator right. They also got the fact that the basic ones always "tell" the ecu that the bike is in 5th gear.

It's been track proven that the ONLY benefit to using a TRE is to eliminate the top speed restriction. It does not improve performance. "around one tenth and 1 ½- 2 mph slower" with an active TRE in the 1/4 mile.

The reason there are more advanced TRE's is because of this reason. Some have a switch (so you only activate it during a top speed run) or ones that only activate when the bike is in 6th gear.

PM me if you want more details. There's just to much to list. Only get a TRE if you need to de-restrict the top speed or get a more expensive/advanced one that either you have control over its activation or it only activates when you're in 6th gear.

BurnCycle · 04-26-2006, 10:43 AM

Depends on the bike too. The TL's (both R and S) greatly benefited from a TRE due to the retard being so pronounced at lower RPM's. Quick throttle snaps could make a TL sputter at first then slowly acceleration came on until you were out of the retards parameters (lower RPM or higher gear). A TL owner that does a lot of city driving could notice a huge difference in engine response. We all know a TL is never going to hit the speed limiter (not sure if it even has one) because it won’t go that fast, but a TRE works well on it.

Commuta_Busa · 04-26-2006, 12:13 PM

the TL is the exception to more than just the results. The TRE is different for the TL. I don't think it's strictly related to the number of cyclinders though. You can put a little "*" next to the TL in alot of cases.

BurnCycle · 04-26-2006, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commuta_Busa

You can put a little "*" next to the TL in alot of cases.

And the people that ride them too.

**Rev** · 04-26-2006, 12:49 PM

Yeh I see your points. Its like how grass builds up soil in the right areas before the trees start. Kinda like how cylinders eat gas when the pipes in the back are too loud...I think you all would agree with me when I say that valve springs time the retard just right.

DougZ · 04-26-2006, 01:06 PM

It works great on the SV1K too. Huge difference in the throttle feel....but the 650 guys usually don't like it. I am happy with mine.

Commuta_Busa · 04-26-2006, 01:17 PM

btw... my bike runs with a basic TRE. But that's because I needed a clean baseline for the ECU's timming AND fuel for all of the gears prior to tunning.

High_Revs_17 · 04-26-2006, 05:05 PM

So this sucker might also improve the performance of any new 600 I might get in the future?