Coach Ralph leading

[EvilSteve]

In the sense that I'm not seeing their form correctly and it's in fact good? Or about what I'm saying is good form?

[Brian78]

about what ur seeing. the photos are from the rear (obviously) and i think its tough to tell where their body is positioned in relation to the front of the motorcycle. i think what ur sayin about body position is fairly accurate

[GinoE]

some other pics for comparison, i can see what you're saying about 'twisting'.

[EvilSteve]

Ok. What I'm looking at is the curve in the second student's spine based on the creasing in the right side of his suit (compared to the left). The last guy looks better but his head is pretty close to where his screen is (you can just see it over his right shoulder). Maybe the chick isn't so bad but just the way she has her head makes it seem as though she's twisted as well. She's also more upright out of the corner so might not be as pronounced.

I'm looking for a couple of pics to illustrate now, having trouble finding them.

edit: Awesome, thanks ginoe, that's what I was saying. BOTY might be right though, it could be an angle of view problem but they look like they're twisting to me.

[carl_g]

you are comparing motgp racers to white group riders LOL!

[CBRBob]

Originally Posted by ism409

you are comparing motgp racers to white group riders LOL!

Fast or slow, form should be the same.

[EvilSteve]

You can still aim to have motogp level form without being a motogp level rider no?

[Brian78]

hows this for bad body position

[EvilSteve]

Miguel's style works for him and that's very important. If it works for you and you're a top level racer then do what works. If you're pushing your own limits, getting less lean of the bike by being more off it is better. Better for the COG, better for more angle (available) and better for suspension travel. Personal comfort is important but my whole point was that there were three students (?) following a coach who all seemed to have poor form. While I do think using form that suits you can lead to increased comfort and therefore confidence which is a good thing, I think that as students (we're not pros) we should all strive for the best form possible.

[Brian78]

...and they are begginers, and thats not that bad for their stage of track riding and/or experience.

[FDNYDANO18]

there are lots of ways to ride a bike....all are not ideal...but they are not nessesarily wrong......
yes I think that their body position could be better...but all and all its not terrible either.
ever look at Mic Doohan, Miguel Duhamel, Tony Elias,Kevin Schwantz,Valentino Rossi....they are all different and ALL do little things WRONG from the IDEAL

just

[FDNYDANO18]

damn I'm a slow typist

[FDNYDANO18]

and you are correct...we all should try to have good form....thats why I take ART every so often

[carl_g]

Here is my shitty form... but then again I don't claim to be a parking lot ruler!

[EvilSteve]

Can someone change my title and get it over with?

You guys realize where Lee Parks ARC courses are run right?