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08-08-2007, 11:24 AM
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I haven't picked a day yet. There is still alot I have to read up on first. You can't use regular anti-freeze on the track right? Other than that, it's just taping up the lights?
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You don't have to change the coolant for any TeamProMotion track day.
All you need to do is tape up the lights. You should pull the headlight
fuses so the tape will not bake itself onto the clear plastic lens, and you
should disconnect the brake light so it can not become a distraction to
other riders, and if possible, remove the mirrors. You have to tape them up
if you leave them on, so you may as well just remove them.
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08-08-2007, 11:30 AM
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Heavy Thumbs
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If you're signing up with TPM, they'll send you the rules. For most beginner track days you don't need to do anything much to your bike. Just tape up the lights (or remove them) and that's about it. If you want to get more serious then you can start safety wiring stuff but that's only required after you move up to one of the more serious groups. The ART Basic class is really good and is free now so it's well worth doing IMO. I'm actually thinking of going to PocoNO again soon and signing up for ART II. I enjoyed the training aspect probably more than the going fast bit. My friend was the opposite. We both found that the instructors barely said a word to either of us because we didn't need that much help compared to some of the people in the class. The only thing about PocoNO for you (IMO) would be your bike. If you're doing the East course then it's pretty damn small. I'm no super fast guy or track day junkie but I didn't get my 750 out of second most of the day. I'm sure if I were better I could quite easily and obviously I don't know how good you are but I found it a little frustrating because I think gear selection is one of the areas I could use some work. Anyway, it's definitely fun, some people certainly cut down their street riding after getting into track days, I know at least one guy who loves track days but still loves riding street. I like both. Riding on the street is something I really enjoy but I'm generally a lot more easy going than some of my friends, I just light it up in the corners, everywhere else I ride the same as I drive.
I'm sure you'll enjoy yourself dude.
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I am one of those few who still love both street and track.
For east most guys run 2nd thru 4th gears and thats about it. It could be worth swapping sprockets if you have them to get more power down low since you arent going much over 110mph anyway.
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08-08-2007, 12:23 PM
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I are not David Hicks
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Yeah, up to 3rd on the back straight on the East course, I definitely went over 100 but not sure by how much. When I went to 3rd it was only to pass other people on bigger bikes and only for maybe a second or two before slowing down for the end of the straight.
I still like street riding too, a track is a great way to work on technique and improve riding but ultimately it's a little boring doing the same set of corners over and over again. That's why I really like street riding. I guess TT would be a great compromise for me but that's not going to happen any time soon.
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08-08-2007, 12:36 PM
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I am one of those few who still love both street and track.
For east most guys run 2nd thru 4th gears and thats about it. It could be worth swapping sprockets if you have them to get more power down low since you arent going much over 110mph anyway.
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I have already gone -1 on the front sprocket.
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08-08-2007, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by EvilSteve
but ultimately it's a little boring doing the same set of corners over and over again.
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No way...
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I have already gone -1 on the front sprocket.
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Don't even worry about gearing...just ride and have fun.
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08-08-2007, 01:12 PM
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I would get into fifth just at the end of the back strait on Pocono east then I had to down shift like a mofo... that god for no engine breaking
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08-08-2007, 01:13 PM
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I am gonna look into getting a set of track plastics if I do decide to give it a whirl. No sense in destroying my OEM ones if I lowside or something.
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08-08-2007, 01:15 PM
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I are not David Hicks
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For me, it is. I think I'd enjoy a longer course than PocoNO, obviously that'd give me more diversity in corners. I long track is something I'd be doing just for fun like Spa or the Nord Schleifer. For practicing technique a shorter track is good but that's more about practice than outright fun for me. I can also get that by going to a car park for form practice and you can easily practice lines on the street.
Obviously this is all just IMO and I've only done one track day at PocoNO east which is clearly not the best track in the world so maybe my opinion will change once I ride something a bit better.
ism409 - don't you have a smaller two stroke though dude?
_Jay_ - I have track plastics for my bike and although that takes a little bit of nervousness out of my mind it's a real PITA to change them over and back if you only have one bike. I want to get a track bike, either a gixxer 600 salvage or an RS250.
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08-08-2007, 01:20 PM
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The Solution
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Obviously this is all just IMO and I've only done one track day at PocoNO east which is clearly not the best track in the world so maybe my opinion will change once I ride something a bit better.
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LOL, theres a whole world out there...definitely recommend Beaver Run, Summit Main, Mosport, VIR...what track next? [panic] I can't stop typing all these tracks...I'm gettin the shakes maaannn, I need a qwik fix
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08-08-2007, 01:23 PM
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Dude you guys could ride the same track over and over and over again and each time see something new and still have something to improve.
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08-08-2007, 01:46 PM
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Yeah WTF is up with all this analysis and shit? Get on the bike and fucking ride. When someone throws down a faster lap time, go faster. You can see where you're slow and fast just by how the people around you are doing while in the same turn. Jesus, this ain't rocket science people.
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08-08-2007, 02:05 PM
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LOL, theres a whole world out there...definitely recommend Beaver Run, Summit Main, Mosport, VIR...what track next? [panic] I can't stop typing all these tracks...I'm gettin the shakes maaannn, I need a qwik fix
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08-08-2007, 02:07 PM
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Come to fusa with me tomorrow
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I'll see you tomorrow Tom!
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08-08-2007, 02:07 PM
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Heavy Thumbs
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Dude you guys could ride the same track over and over and over again and each time see something new and still have something to improve.
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Until youre blowing by everyone in the blue group theres always room to improve
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08-08-2007, 02:29 PM
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I are not David Hicks
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For me there's a difference between going out and having fun on a bike and going out and learning how to go faster. Maybe it's all the same for you guys but I see distinct differences between the two. I like learning about technique, when I see someone with their arm slightly in the wrong position or not leaning quite right it stands out very brightly to me. I certainly derive some enjoyment from leaning form and going faster but a track day is not the place for me to be basing my speed of others, it's a place for me to learn how to ride better which ultimately will result in riding faster (one would hope). I'm not saying I have nothing to learn about PocoNO east, I'm saying that, for fun, it's not really the track for me. For technique I can pretty much learn in a car park and don't really need a track to do so.
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