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Old 01-22-2008, 09:45 AM   #31
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Well, since we seem to have gone WAY off topic, I'll weigh
in with ALL politicians suck and are only in it for themselves.

Republican "small government" ideals are better than Democratic
"Entitlement" ideals, but in the political world we live in they all suck.

Ron Paul may well rain "fire and brimstone" down on Washington DC,
but he still won't get a damn thing done while trying to work with a
Congress and Senate that he doesn't "belong" to.

Rant Over...We now continue with our regularly scheduled program...
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Old 01-22-2008, 01:22 PM   #32
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But that goes against everything that you have posted prior to this..
I haven't posted in this thread
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:02 PM   #33
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I haven't posted in this thread
ok Sorry in the other politically based threads.
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Old 01-22-2008, 02:04 PM   #34
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ok Sorry in the other politically based threads.
I really don't like democrats or republicans in fact I hate them all.

As my American Government and Politics Prof. used to say

"We have the best politicians money can buy."
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:14 PM   #35
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Yep, and Corzine is going to insure that!
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:36 PM   #36
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Can you get me your source for those reference usages or did you intercept some chain letter with a link to some blog sent sent by some faggot democrat who took a break from hugging a tree in between abortions and stealing CBRBobs tax money to send out an email to keep the conspiracy going?
they are stealing your tax money too, it's not just CBRBob!
I did some research on this 6+ months ago and found enough info to raise an eyebrow. Can't find my notes... here's one reference:

Media = almost 90% democrat shown by this small survey. reference Journalist Donations
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MSNBC.com identified 143 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 16 gave to Republicans.
How does that effect public opinion? ...combined with "citizen journalists", Mikey Moore, etc
Example: Poll says 35% of dems think Bush knew about 9/11 in advance.reference
That is amazing.

Over the years, I've seen and participated in a few news worthy events. In each of them, the media skewed the facts and rearranged things out of pure ignorance or simply to make the story more exciting. The media is supposed to be unbiased. yeah right.
AP / CNN / NBC / CBS / ABC / PBS / MTV - liberal
Fox - conservative

Education system is mostly liberal. No secret about that either.
Majority of schools/universities are unionized and therefore mostly democrat.
Environment skews your opinion. reference Social Proof

Nothing wrong with dems or unions in the mainstream.
Problems occur when things are taken to an extreme... and that goes for any party. Check out: www.cpusa.org


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And what do you consider short term and long term?
depending on the issue
short term is immediate - 2 years
long term is 2-30 years
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:44 PM   #37
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Education system is mostly liberal. No secret about that either.
Majority of schools/universities are unionized and therefore mostly democrat.
Well a simple google search could have told you that

"College of liberal arts", 1,090,000
http://www.google.com/search?source=...=Google+Search

"College of conservative arts", 7
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...22&btnG=Search
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:55 PM   #38
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scary stuff

unfortunately, lemmings vote.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:02 AM   #39
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Well actually, I just found this article. http://www.paullockaby.com/journal/?...4/11/226974496

It links to the sources for these numbers

October 2005: 33% Democrat, 25% Republican, 38% Independent/Unaffiliated
March 2005: 33% Democrat, 28% Republican, 36% Independent/Unaffiliated
October 2004: 34% Democrat, 29% Republican, 33% Independent/Unaffiliated
March 2004: 32% Democrat, 24% Republican, 41% Independent/Unaffiliated
October 2003: 27% Democrat, 31% Republican, 38% Independent/Unaffiliated
April 2003: 29% Democrat, 26% Republican, 41% Independent/Unaffiliated
October 2002: 29% Democrat, 26% Republican, 40% Independent/Unaffiliated
October 2001: 29% Democrat, 31% Republican, 39% Independent/Unaffiliated
April 2000: 34% Democrat, 28% Republican, 33% Independent/Unaffiliated
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:24 AM   #40
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Independant/unafiliated= uninvolved.... uninformed
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"College of liberal arts", 1,090,000
http://www.google.com/search?source=...=Google+Search

"College of conservative arts", 7
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...22&btnG=Search
Yep, liberal arts are the classes you take to fill in credits for your REAL major (AKA basket weaving etc).

Dano...exactly!!
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Old 01-23-2008, 08:52 AM   #42
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Well actually, I just found this article. http://www.paullockaby.com/journal/?...4/11/226974496

It links to the sources for these numbers

October 2005: 33% Democrat, 25% Republican, 38% Independent/Unaffiliated
March 2005: 33% Democrat, 28% Republican, 36% Independent/Unaffiliated
October 2004: 34% Democrat, 29% Republican, 33% Independent/Unaffiliated
March 2004: 32% Democrat, 24% Republican, 41% Independent/Unaffiliated
October 2003: 27% Democrat, 31% Republican, 38% Independent/Unaffiliated
April 2003: 29% Democrat, 26% Republican, 41% Independent/Unaffiliated
October 2002: 29% Democrat, 26% Republican, 40% Independent/Unaffiliated
October 2001: 29% Democrat, 31% Republican, 39% Independent/Unaffiliated
April 2000: 34% Democrat, 28% Republican, 33% Independent/Unaffiliated
The article provides stats for the students... not the faculty.

I'm talking about the people who are responsible for educating the impressionable minds of our children with unbiased information... or at least a fair impression of both sides of a story.
Add to that, democrats are more likely to be demonstrating, marching, picketing and protesting. With the exception of the extreme end of the abortion issue, you rarely see republicans forcing themselves.

Extreme on either side doesn't help anything.


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add unaffiliated = hide your head in the sand, "who cares" or "I have no idea" or "I have no idea what my own values are"
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