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06-06-2005, 08:58 PM
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chain maintenance 101
got this from another forum. i think it has a lot of good basic info.
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Chain Maintenance 101 - The Care and Feeding of Your Chain - or - How to love your chain the Mity Mouse way!
How to clean, maintain & adjust your chain:
Clean the chain & sprockets with a rag sprayed with some WD-40. I spray the rag rather than the chain in order to prevent WD-40 overspray on the rear tire, etc.
I like to use an old sock - it covers the whole hand, then just wipe away at everything. WD-40 is also the best thing I've seen to clean the chain lube off the swingarm, chain guard & rear wheel, etc. It leaves everything perfectly clean and shiny, with a light film to resist the chain lube in the future.
Some folks like to use only the WD-40 to clean and lube the chain, based on the theory that the O-rings keep the grease inside, but I feel more confident with actual chain lube inside the unsealed pin / roller. I use Maxima Chain Wax and highly recommend it. There is practically no fling or greasy build-up. WD-40 is not really a lubricant, and certainly has no sheer strength like a product designed for the purpose.
Clean the chain and everything thoroughly with the WD-40. Go ride for a while. When you get back, the chain will be warm.
The heat will have allowed the steel parts to expand, slightly increasing the space for the chain lube to flow inside the roller. The heat will also warm the lube itself, increasing it's penetration.
Immediately after your ride wipe the chain down thoroughly with a clean, dry rag to remove any excess crud while it's easy to wipe off.
Then, while the chain is still warm, carefully spray a small amount of chain lube directly onto each roller - try to get the small gaps between the roller and the sideplates. There's no need to get the O-rings. The WD-40 will have lubed them sufficiently, and getting chain lube on them will only increase the fling-off and attract more dirt.
You want to lube the inside run of the chain - If you look at your chain from the side it's a big loop - lube the top side of the bottom run (the part that actually makes contact with the sprockets).
If you do not have a center stand or swingarm stand to support the back wheel off the ground you will need to back the bike up several times to get the whole chain.
After cleaning & lubing, park your bike for the night, allowing everything to cool, and the chain lube will set up.
Before your next ride, simply wipe the chain and sprockets again with a dry rag, or SLIGHTLY moistened with the WD-40. The overnite setup, and pre-ride wipe down will nearly eliminate lube fling.
After a good cleaning, there will continue to be some fling for a while from the residual WD-40. Continue to wipe the chain & everything else daily. and do not add any more WD-40 until after the fling stops, and then use it sparingly. Daily lubing and wiping will keep things very clean thereafter, and the fling will be negligible. You should rarely need to do the WD-40 cleaning routine.
Your chain should always have a slight gleam & clean shine, but not dripping lube; it should appear clean and new - NEVER dry!!
Believe me, this way seems like more hassle, but it's MUCH cleaner.
This whole procedure is actually simpler to do than it is to describe. Once you get the hang of it, it only takes a couple minutes and everything stays pretty clean.
The other critical aspect of proper chain maintenance is adjustment. Consult your owner's manual for the manufacturers recommended procedure.
Basically, find the approximate center of the bottom run of the chain, between sprockets. Grab the chain with two fingers and move it up and down. It should have about 1 1/2 inches of vertical travel from the highest point to the lowest. It's OK to eyeball - a slightly loose (but properly lubricated) chain is better than too tight. Slightly loose allows the rear suspension to work freely throughout it's full travel.
After adjustment, sight down the chain line from the rear of the bike looking forward along the top of the chain towards the countershaft sprocket. the rear spocket should appear to be lined up directly behind the countershaft sprocket, with the chain centered over both sprockets.
There are some other more precise ways to check the alignment using several measurements and a couple devices, but if you're careful this is all that's really necessary on the street. If you have a swingarm stand, rotate the rear wheel in neutral, and you'll be able to see this clearly.
Checking chain wear: The simplest way to check is to pinch the chain between two fingers, at the rear of the rear sprocket (the 3 o'clock position when viewed from the side), and pull the chain directly off the sprocket. You should not be able to see more than 1/2 of the base of a sprocket tooth at the biggest gap. The sprocket teeth should also not appear sharply pointed, extremely rounded, or chipped.
When you decide it's time to replace the chain due to wear, the chain and BOTH sprockets should also be replaced at the same time. Consider a new chain to be a package deal, unless both sprockets are showing no wear, or very little wear. This is rarely the case on streetbikes.
Racers may encounter this because they may change sprockets frequently to adjust gearing for a particular track or conditions.
Sprockets are relatively cheap, the big cost is the chain. Stick with steel sprockets for durability unless you are racing or have invested in lightweight aftermarket wheels.
The chain is one of the hardest working, yet most neglected parts of a motorcycle.
Follow this regimen after every ride, or whenever the chain appears dry & dull, and you'll have many miles of trouble-free service from your chain, with no worries about it breaking suddenly. Every time you service your chain (before & after every ride) you are also inspecting it. You'll know it's worn and time for replacement, long before sudden failure becomes a concern. I've gotten well over 30,000 miles from an RK chain on a hard-ridden FJ1200 (big, heavy & powerful), used in all weather, with a passenger, as well as many other chains on other bikes.
The maintenance is really quite simple, fairly clean, and only takes a few minutes, if you follow the procedures above.
Lube after the ride; wipe it down before the ride; adjust periodically, and clean the swingarm & wheel occasionally as necessary.
May your chain have a long and happy life!
MM
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before the cleaning, my chain was actually black. i lubed the chain after every ride, but never bothered to actually clean it until now. this is mine now. what's yours look like?
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06-06-2005, 11:03 PM
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Mine looks like that all the time without wd-40 or kerosene BS. I use Maxima chain wax when the chain is warm. Spray it on, wipe it off with a clean rag. Then spray it once more. Done!
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07-02-2006, 02:49 PM
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My chain looks like an ashtray that was left outside in the rain. I better get off my lazy a$$ and clean it.
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07-02-2006, 04:01 PM
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generally, wd-40 is NOT recommended for o-ring chains. According to almost every owner's manual, the recommended chemical for cleaning a chain is Kerosene.
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07-02-2006, 05:04 PM
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Maxima Chain Wax & Cable Lube
Works great & stays in place - I use this every week.
(I use paper towels behind the lower section of chain to avoid making a mess.)
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07-08-2010, 04:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AfricanBootyScratcher
generally, wd-40 is NOT recommended for o-ring chains. According to almost every owner's manual, the recommended chemical for cleaning a chain is Kerosene.
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I have never been able to find a single document that exposed the potential damage to o-rings. I decided to take it upon myself to do a little searching to see if there is any type of evidence to support these claims. Here is what I found.
I contacted RK Chain using their "Live Chat" function on their web page:
Jon: Can you tell me the type of rubber used in the o-ring seals of your chains? Is it Buna, Nitrile, Butyl? Thanks, JonFZ1
You are next in queue.We will be with you in just a moment.
Technician Travis: Good morning
Technician Travis: Yes you are correct. Its called Nitrile Butadiene
Technician Travis: Is there anything else I can help you with?
Jon: Thanks for the fast response. You've answered my question perfectly.
Technician Travis: Excellent. If you have any other questions please feel free to contact us.
OK so Nitrile Butadiene is also called Buna-N and is a extremely common rubber used in various applications. Let's look at the compatability of this material with various materials. Luckily there is a excellent resource called eFunda that is a engineering fundamentals site that has an o-ring material comparison for compatabilty with various materials on a scale of 4.
(4) Good, both for static and dynamic seals
(3) Fair, usually OK for static seals
(2) Sometimes OK for static seals; not OK for dynamic seals
(1) Poor
(0) No Data
Now they don't specifically state WD-40, but they do have a classificaiton for a Stoddard Solvent which WD-40 is classified as.
The link shows full compatibility of Buna-N with this Stoddard Solvent - RATING 4
http://www.efunda.com/designstandar...d%20Solvent#mat
Let's break the WD-40 down: (Source Wikipedia since WD-40 MSDS site down)
* 50%: Stoddard solvent (mineral spirits, somewhat similar to, but not the same as, kerosene)
* 25%: Liquefied petroleum gas (presumably as a propellant, carbon dioxide is used now to reduce considerable flammability)
* 15+%: Mineral oil (light lubricating oil)
* 10-%: Inert ingredients
The link shows full compatibility of Buna-N with this Kerosene - RATING 4
http://www.efunda.com/designstandar...SC=Kerosene#mat
The link shows full compatibility of Buna-N with this Liquefied Petroleum Gas - RATING 4
http://www.efunda.com/designstandar...20%28LPG%29#mat
The link shows full compatibility of Buna-N with this Mineral Oil - RATING 4
http://www.efunda.com/designstandar...eral%20Oils#mat
Since there is poor evidence that I can find to show lack of compatibility of with WD-40, I have to believe that there is no negative effect of using WD-40 on a motorcycle chain equipped with o-rings.
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12-27-2011, 09:11 PM
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Wow that was really good reading....LOL
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07-02-2006, 04:57 PM
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New at this but def know that a lubed chain is the difference between night & day!! Def keep up with it, regardless of the product...currently using Lucas.
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07-02-2006, 05:13 PM
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Great info....was just thinking about this when I went to WCW the other day. Thanks for tidbit
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07-02-2006, 10:31 PM
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Do not use WD-40, only chain cleaners/lubes should be used that won't effect/damange the O/X rings over time. A properly cleaned, lubed & tensioned chain can make a world of difference with performance on your bike ranging from smoother shifts & acceleration to increased fuel mileage & sprocket life.
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07-05-2006, 07:47 PM
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Well I finally cleaned my chain, and managed to make a giant mess all over my garage floor. I used kerosene, a paint brush, some rags, and a plastic cup to dip the brush in the kerosene.
The plastic cup was where I made my mistake. It was your typical red Solo cup like the kind you get at keg parties. The kerosene ate a hole through the bottom of the cup within 10 minutes and leaked all over the floor. Don't be a dumbass like me, use a glass container!
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07-05-2006, 08:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lu380
Well I finally cleaned my chain, and managed to make a giant mess all over my garage floor. I used kerosene, a paint brush, some rags, and a plastic cup to dip the brush in the kerosene.
The plastic cup was where I made my mistake. It was your typical red Solo cup like the kind you get at keg parties. The kerosene ate a hole through the bottom of the cup within 10 minutes and leaked all over the floor. Don't be a dumbass like me, use a glass container!
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07-05-2006, 11:45 PM
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this might help too.
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08-04-2006, 12:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High_Revs_17
Do not use WD-40, only chain cleaners/lubes should be used that won't effect/damange the O/X rings over time. A properly cleaned, lubed & tensioned chain can make a world of difference with performance on your bike ranging from smoother shifts & acceleration to increased fuel mileage & sprocket life.
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07-06-2006, 07:01 AM
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Don't EVER usa a grunge brush. It will clean the chain beautifully! Along with tearing up the o-rings!
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