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Old 01-31-2009, 04:28 PM   #2
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Some questions already asked on other forums

Q. Any MAJOR difference from PC3 besides being able to get an auto tuner for it?

A. The PCV unit alone, major differences...none really. The size is considerably smaller, and there's an extra throttle position column in the fuel table. That's about it, for now. But I would consider that it's still kinda in it's development stage, new firmware versions will come out to make nifty little changes here and there.

Q. Im real curious to see how the auto tune feature works. Are you getting that next?

A. Most definitely. As soon as the AutoTune kit is available, it's mine! It's pretty damn sweet how it works. The only thing I don't like about it though, when you've gone on a ride to "tune" and get back home to check out the outcome on the laptop...you can do one of two things...one you leave it where it's at and let it continue to add to the auto tune map, two you can "accept trims" then it writes the map to the internal memory where you'll no longer see the values. I would like it better if when you "accept trims" it writes the map to your visibile fuel table.

It's kinda hard to explain what I'm talking about there unless you're looking at the PCV Control Center software.

Q. Does it constantly tune the bike like the Motty?

A. Yes, it only tunes the bottom 4 injectors though...but it's a constant tune as long as you have auto-tune enabled. Only time it stops auto-tuning is when you turn off the hardware switch (don't think it's included) or disable auto-tune within the Control Center software.

It also can be set up to not start tuning until the bike has been running for a specified amount of time, or until the bike reaches a specified temperature.

Q. Whats your opinion Duff on this vs Motty


I am waiting for a plug n play for motty, and was going to buy it, but it seems they may NEVER make one at this rate. Also, all these advances are going to put dyno tuners out of business soon!

A. I have no experience with the motty, and haven't known anyone personally with experience with the motty either...so I cannot really give any opinions on it. I could be completely wrong, but from what I understand, the motty is based on one AFR for the whole range, but like I said...this could be completely inaccurate.

The PCV has a map of AFR's just like it has a map of fuel trims, so you can tune it to a specified AFR at each and every throttle position/RPM in the table.

As for puting dyno tuners out of business, that's not entirely accurate either...it will definitely slow down their business, but one should still get a dyno tune prior to doing any self tuning so you know what AFR's will be optimal for your bike. Just like a fuel map, each bike has different AFR ranges that will be optimal for it... But once you get your first tune, then it won't be necessary to worry about it again...You've got a base map for the auto-tune to work off of, and it's working off of real time ram air and environmental/climate conditions and tuning it's little heart out.

Another thing about the PCV over the motty, the PCV can be set up to tune per gear, and even per cylinder...if you tune per cylinder though, you'd have to get a seperate auto tune kit and O2 sensor for each clyinder...by per gear it's only required the one auto-tune kit and O2 sensor

Q. So how does this compare to Bazzaz Z-Fi/A-AFM setup?

A. There is no comparison in my opinion. The bazzaz you have to tune yourself with recommended adjustments that it gives you, the PCV/AutoTune is completely automatic...you tell it what AFR you want and ride, that's it...nothing more
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