Sorry to bring up this thread from the dead, but Cakes, you KNEW when I saw the 2bros comments I would. Thats why you told me to come here ISNT IT?! I love my 2bros. They have come a long ways, and the VALE shrt can is kicken. SOunds awesome with a P1 power tip. These are my Aluminum PAINTed pics. I got the shiny aluminum, and spent 5 bucks on paint vs the extra hundred on carbon. Ok. Im done