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Kennedy 01-06-2008 11:27 PM

McGovern: Time to impeach Bush
 
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January 6, 2008
McGovern: Time to impeach Bush
Posted: 08:42 PM ET


McGovern is calling for Bush and Cheney to be impeached.
WASHINGTON (CNN) – George McGovern, the Democratic Party's 1972 nominee for president, is calling on Congress to impeach President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

And in an editorial in Sunday's Washington Post, McGovern writes the case for impeaching the current president is "far stronger" than the case made against former President Richard Nixon — the man who soundly defeated McGovern in the general election match up.

"Bush and Cheney are clearly guilty of numerous impeachable offenses," McGovern writes. "They have repeatedly violated the Constitution. They have transgressed national and international law. They have lied to the American people time after time.

"Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world," he continued.

McGovern, a former three-term senator who ran for president on a fiercely anti-war platform, also called the administration's policy in Iraq a "a murderous, illegal, nonsensical war" in violation of international law.

"This reckless disregard for life and property, as well as constitutional law, has been accompanied by the abuse of prisoners, including systematic torture, in direct violation of the Geneva Conventions of 1949," he added.

But McGovern acknowledged there is little bipartisan support for an impeachment effort, blaming "superficial partisanship" among Republicans, and a "a lack of courage and statesmanship on the part of too many Democratic politicians."

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Dick Cheney • George McGovern • President Bush

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...-impeach-bush/

Should have been done much sooner.

carl_g 01-07-2008 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Kennedy (Post 80300)

OK Mr political scholar...
Please explain to the group what good this will do for the country. The guy's term is almost up. It is in the country's best interest to let bush finish his term.
At least the guy can make a decision, whether it be good or bad..unlike his wishy washy democrat socialist fuckfaces.. The whole country is so divided now because of the "pussification" of America..the bleeding hearts...nobody wants to deal with any consequences they just want things to magically be better..and you think this is good for the country??? Did you even vote?

Kennedy 01-07-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ism409 (Post 80303)
OK Mr political scholar...
Please explain to the group what good this will do for the country. The guy's term is almost up. It is in the country's best interest to let bush finish his term.
At least the guy can make a decision, whether it be good or bad..unlike his wishy washy democrat socialist fuckfaces.. The whole country is so divided now because of the "pussification" of America..the bleeding hearts...nobody wants to deal with any consequences they just want things to magically be better..and you think this is good for the country??? Did you even vote?

Like I said should have been done much sooner didn't say anymore or less. It's to late now like you pointed out. I'm glad to see how I can push your buttons if I ever need to in the future ;)

CBRBob 01-07-2008 11:31 AM

Time to impeach Corzine you mean.

Kennedy 01-07-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CBRBob (Post 80306)
Time to impeach Corzine you mean.

:nod2:

jcblitz 01-07-2008 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ism409 (Post 80303)
OK Mr political scholar...
Please explain to the group what good this will do for the country. The guy's term is almost up. It is in the country's best interest to let bush finish his term.
At least the guy can make a decision, whether it be good or bad..unlike his wishy washy democrat socialist fuckfaces.. The whole country is so divided now because of the "pussification" of America..the bleeding hearts...nobody wants to deal with any consequences they just want things to magically be better..and you think this is good for the country??? Did you even vote?

You're playing partisan politics and it's obvious from your mention of the democrats. If someone shows constant disregard for the most basic forms of freedoms they were put in office to uphold, they have to go. Impeaching Bush and anyone else who showed flagrant (and illegal) disregard will at least send a message to the rest of the world that America will not stand for this behavior, no matter how long a remaining term might be. I'm not saying a democratic leader will be any better (I don't like either of the parties), but any person in any public position must be accountable and questionable for their actions, including and starting at the very top. You're right, things don't get magically better, which is why riding it out won't work either. BTW, I'm registered republican and I voted against Bush twice.

Cakes206 01-07-2008 12:17 PM

:popcorn:

Kennedy 01-07-2008 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jcblitz (Post 80308)
You're playing partisan politics and it's obvious from your mention of the democrats. If someone shows constant disregard for the most basic forms of freedoms they were put in office to uphold, they have to go. Impeaching Bush and anyone else who showed flagrant (and illegal) disregard will at least send a message to the rest of the world that America will not stand for this behavior, no matter how long a remaining term might be. I'm not saying a democratic leader will be any better (I don't like either of the parties), but any person in any public position must be accountable and questionable for their actions, including and starting at the very top. You're right, things don't get magically better, which is why riding it out won't work either. BTW, I'm registered republican and I voted against Bush twice.

I didn't want argue anything besides it should have come alot sooner. However he is right it doesn't matter if it is the democrats, republicans or green party in office. Partisan Politics does not matter when it comes to violation of the Geneva Convention, going to war without having a declaration of war from Congress and violations of U.N. Charter and International Law.

If they violate the Constitution they should be impeached and held accountable for their actions. Case Closed.

carl_g 01-07-2008 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kennedy (Post 80305)
Like I said should have been done much sooner didn't say anymore or less. It's to late now like you pointed out. I'm glad to see how I can push your buttons if I ever need to in the future ;)


You can't make some blanket statement like that and expect no one to say anything about it.:ohmygod:

carl_g 01-07-2008 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jcblitz (Post 80308)
You're playing partisan politics and it's obvious from your mention of the democrats. If someone shows constant disregard for the most basic forms of freedoms they were put in office to uphold, they have to go. Impeaching Bush and anyone else who showed flagrant (and illegal) disregard will at least send a message to the rest of the world that America will not stand for this behavior, no matter how long a remaining term might be. I'm not saying a democratic leader will be any better (I don't like either of the parties), but any person in any public position must be accountable and questionable for their actions, including and starting at the very top. You're right, things don't get magically better, which is why riding it out won't work either. BTW, I'm registered republican and I voted against Bush twice.

Dude it should be obvious from my post that I don't believe in the democratic mindset..In saying that, I don't like Bush. He doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the shed. But to start screaming about impeachment is ridiculous. It is just as ridiculous as when people were all about impeaching Clinton near the end of his term. Is this a trend that we will have to face every 4 years from now on?

carl_g 01-07-2008 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kennedy (Post 80310)

If they violate the Constitution they should be impeached and held accountable for their actions. Case Closed.

What did he do to violate the constitution?

jcblitz 01-07-2008 01:15 PM

Where the hell is das uberdog when you need him.

CBRBob 01-07-2008 01:18 PM

Rather have Bush than Socialists, oops I mean democrats. :moocow:

Cakes206 01-07-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jcblitz (Post 80316)
Where the hell is das uberdog when you need him.

Oh man lol.

carl_g 01-07-2008 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jcblitz (Post 80316)
Where the hell is das uberdog when you need him.

LOL! :roflmao:

Actually I am not some crazy right wing republican..

However, I don't feel like I need to pull the weight of others by paying more taxes for "programs to help the needy." If I want to contribute to charity I should be able to do so where I see fit.
I also like to have more rights and land access then woodsy the owl.


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