Legal questions/help
 

So I was arrested today. "INNOCENTLY"

I went shopping with my wife today, which I never do by the way.

But today I went with her, went up and down every isle, cart was filled. Shes putting things in, taking things out, Im putting things in and shes taking them out. yadda yadda yadda.......


We get to the cashier, Brenda in front of the shopping cart and me behind it. Im putting everything on the conveyor belt so the cashier can scan it. as she scans it my wife bags it and puts it the bagged items back in the shopping cart. were done at the check out, and walking through the parking lot to the car when Im stopped my deputy dickhead. he grabs my arm and im like what the fuck asshole.

he tells me im under arrest for shop lifting, now i snapped and said count all the items and look at the reciept. he told me he watched everything and i didnt put the 2 bags of dog food on the belt to be paid for. i said what dog food..? needless to say there was two 50lbs bags of dog food on the bottom of the cart where the wheels are that i did not know was there.

i was brought back inside then he called the police. i was escorted through the entire shoprite in handcuffs. it was an honest overlook.

overlooked by ME. overlooked by my WIFE and overlooked the the CASHIER.

i dont have a record nor do i want one neither. being it will be my sorta kinda 1st offence where do i stand..? it was an innocent mistake. i am not allowed back ionto that shoprite, like i give a flying fuck.

but i did tell the manager i am so sorry and that i didnt see it and will gladly pay for the 2 bags 10 times the amount, and he nor the dickhead under cover security didnt wanna hear a word edge wise from me.

im got a family lawyer whom i didnt speak to with about it yet only because he is on vacation till sometime next week. but where to i stand.?

That's fucking ridiculous. I have no idea where you stand but I'd be fucking pissed. You just paid for all those other groceries but not the dog food? WTF?

Talk to the owner/manager of the store. They are the ones pressing charges, and it is up to them what happens(From what I remember from when I was 14...).

I don't know about once you have actually been arrested and processed at the station. Prosecutors/DAs are mostly cocksuckers and the legal system in this country is the reason the enforcers are such upstanding jerkoffs. Good luck sorry for ranting. If you want to start a revolution lemme know.

Sorry Dude, I don't talk to Perps!


Na, seriously, thats fuggin crazy dude!

Yeah, try to talk to the manager again, that shit happens all the time. If it's a major chain, start climbing up the hierarchy, district / regional manger, etc. I never remember shit on the bottom of my cart. I don't see any "criminal intent" behind putting 50 lbs of dog food on the bottom of the cart. If it was 50 lbs of lobster, maybe. It's a lost cost item and it takes up a lot of room. It's not a crime that someone would logically commit. Remind them that it could happen to anyone, it wasn't a premeditated thing. Also, if this is something they still wish to pursue you have no problems calling local news stations and having them look into it. I have no doubt the publicity of arresting and prosecuting patrons for a common mistake that a cashier should be trained to spot would cost them more money than the dog food you forgot about. It would make for a great "shame on you" spot on the nightly news. "A common mistake customers make while at a supermarket could land you in jail. Find out which retailer decided to press charges at 11".

Any updates? This is seriously pissing me off and i can't stop thinking about it.

dude.. I so agree.. the more and more i read about it you are so right. I would totally call Asa Aronns or one of those things.. they would have a field day with a situation like that. If the "deputy dick head" was watching it the whole time.. why dident he say something to you before you walked out of the store,,, "Hey buddie... I think you forgot those two bags of food" . He was looking to "justify" his position as captain dick snot. His job isent to arrest people his job is to warn people.. and if he did "arrest you" and he isent leagly a cop you definatly have a case for wrong full imprisonment. Did captin dickhead "read you your rights" I would seriously find out about what his status is on "making arrests" I mean its not like you where wispering to your wife "we got away with it the dog food is ours". This deputy dickhead should have said something to you right away when he was "watching it" go down. ... fuck that call up channel 7

Damn bro now thats some freaking BS right there. Now the story sound like it really happened. But i'm having trouble with the "dont have a record nor do i want one neither. being it will be my sorta kinda 1st offence where do i stand.." line that you have.

I hope that you blast the shoprite. If the manager at the time won't help, go to the store manager. Then just keeping going higher and higher.

Good luck with it.

Fuckin Criminal:nono:

People are ridiculous!! If you were going to steal I cant imagine you would choose 2 lousy bags of dog food especially if they were under the damn cart. You cant tell me that has not happened to anyone before. I see people all the times with cases of soda/water or bundles of paper towels under the cart and I'm sure somewhere/somehow/ someone else accidentally walked out of the store without paying for it....give me a break!

I hope it works out for your and your wife.

Fucking criminal...

But seriously, that's bull shit. Hope it all works out for you. Cant believe that they are making such a big deal about this.

That dude who called the cop must need something to do with his time.

No updates as of yet although I got court next Tuesday at 1pm. But I'm leaving here in about 2 hours to go to Florida for the week on Vacation. I called the court house and told them I wont be here and that im on vacation next week.

she said they will set a different date for it

can you say "profiling"? you look like a dog food theive... i knew your dog food stealing ways woudl catch up to you sooner or later :)
j/k
honestly tho.. clal the news and ect thats teh best way to draw attention to your self and ebarace the store and the rent-a-cop and the manager and all the idiots involved...
i cant believe you got arrested for stealing dog food.
next thing youknw they will arrest me for eating produce while shopping..

So when should we expect the "So I told them I was going on vacation and they said they'd set a new date...BUT..." thread?

Sorry to hear the store square badge was such an asshole. Hopefully the store management/owners willl not prosecute.
I expect that with an attorney, you should be able to get this either dismissed or at worst reduced to what's called an ACD in NY. Its where the Judge decides due to your clean record and lack of any aggravating circumstances to put the case aside for a period of time and see if you keep your nose clean. After that period, usually 6 months in NY, the Judge will dismiss the case.
Speak with an attorney about this. Its done in NY all the time for minor offense cases.
Ken

+1 to Ken's comments. I would tend to think that the judge would take the circumstances into account as well as the fact you have a clean record. It was an honest mistake and it happens....Good luck

Clean record ....john.....:)

dude maybe it's just me but this whole country is fucking overboard.....bans against certain types of clothing...censorship on the radio and now people getting cuffed at FUCKING SHOP RIGHT over some stupid oversight....who the fuck pays for a cart full of food but not 10 bucks in dog food...that asshole security guy needs his head bashed in a few times with a tire iron.

Your FUCKED!!!FUCKING THIEF!!! How do you not notice 2 50 lbs. bags of dogfood under the cart?????!!!!

that's fuckin ridiculus!and people like that dickhead security need to be punch in the stupid face!:jerkit:

do you guys always believe what John says!!:roflmao: :roflmao:

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too close to this story...... wake up people...........:P

Check the time stamp ;)

I'm confused as to whether this is real or not... but in NY I believe if something is a misdemeanor, which I think shoplifting that that $ amount is?? there is a way to have them clean the system of your finger prints and information since it's not a serious offense. I know my friend is currently doing this because of a DWAI. That sucks if this is real because it has to happen pretty often. I know when I worked at a grocery store it was a cashiers duty to look in the cart and see if anything is on the bottom.

Also, when I worked at Price Chopper in NY, it was store policy that first time offenders were offered a chance to pay a $75 fine and leave empty handed never to return or have the cops show up and make the arrest. Most people gladly paid the $75 and said goodbye. I'm surprised they didn't do that since it's not really worth their time to go to court and everything. Whatever. I say if you are clear and free of all charges that you sue over mental distress and, if nothing else, make those two tool's lives inconvenient for a while. Or slash tires.

I think that's extortion by definition. "Extortion or outwresting is a criminal offense, which occurs when a person either obtains money, property or services from another through coercion or intimidation or threatens one with physical or reputational harm unless they are paid money or property." Source

Basically they're concealing a crime for a payment of $75. Kind of falls under the "pay up or else" definition.

;) :P , its the other way around then.....

so John is screwed! Clean record???

bump

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We will have to change you screen name to " SIZZLER"

Your screwed in a couple ways....regardless of what you say you still walked out with 2 bags of 50lb dog food bags (which i don't know HOW you didn't notice it under your cart cuz dat sheet heavy). They have a good case against you because basically you were caught red handed. Another bad thing is if these guys want to "make you an example". You hear petti cases all the time that goes to full extents just to "make an example". Hopefully this is not one of them. If this is the Clark shoprite, good luck, those guys are mofo's. The security gaurd is defenitly on a power trip and is looking to move up to deli!!!! Let us know what happend at the trial

No way man...not in this kind of case...I've worked in supermarkets/catering...this stuff happens ALL the time to the point where there is usually one of them bubble mirrors on the other side for the cashier to look. At the very least the cashier is supposed to be trained to make sure everything on/in the cart is rung up. On the flip side, they failed to do their job.

I went food shopping on Sunday. I told my wife about this as we walked into the store. Even made a joke when I put a case of snapple on the bottom of the cart. Guess what, I still forgot it was down there when I was paying. Luckily she didn't. I asked the cashier how often does that happen and he said a lot. And it's obvious when someone is doing it on purpose, they try to stand in the way so he can't see it even though he's trained to look under there. Unlike me who just stands behind the cart staring at all the boobs on the chick magazines while my wife unpacks the cart.

LMAO :haha: You'rea mess.

Hell thats me too :lol:

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PS Johns still gonna BURN!

lmfao...YOU GUYS keel me...I do that too..then Crystal yells at me to put the stuff on the moving thingy..

I'm just trying to make John shake in his timbs a little sheesh!..John don't worry you'll be fine :(

Its called a conveyor belt. You must be one of them people that just has to slam down that grocery separator behind all your stuff...like old ladies do huh lol

On the front and back!!! I don't need other people trying to jack my food items..let them work for it themselves!!!

The hells wrong with that...worked deli for a couple years , was then promoted to frozen foods!! College job...:moocow: