Originally Posted by soda7o (Post 65366)

now you tell me this ..lol
i have two dislocated shoulders and baby my shouders as well but everytime i do the stupid peck deck machine my shoulders are killing me.. now i know why ...
i will stay away from that machine
i am learning things on here.. and maybe illstop killing my shoulders from now on...

Originally Posted by Cakes982 (Post 65371)

Just remember that the peck deck is a shaping exercise. Should not be going heavy at all...low weight, adjust your position and really isolate the center chest fibers. I too have bad shoulders and can use the peck deck w/o major issues(I know everyones situation is different, but we learn to work around them.)

Originally Posted by Cakes982 (Post 65368)

Whos yer trainer? Anyone I would know?

Originally Posted by soda7o (Post 65366)

now you tell me this ..lol
i have two dislocated shoulders and baby my shouders as well but everytime i do the stupid peck deck machine my shoulders are killing me.. now i know why ...
i will stay away from that machine
i am learning things on here.. and maybe illstop killing my shoulders from now on...

i really wish i had a normal workout partner.. instead of my stupid friend that only does arms and chest... (i made him do back and shoudlers withme and he was in pain for about a week crying and bitching to me..)

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 65382)

His name is Bill Cummings he is 5'8" and usually steps on stage around 235-238 lbs. He's going for his pro-card soon. He's not from around here.

We do all the work through the internet and come show time he's flying in.



Like Joe said. LEARN TO LISTEN TO YOUR BODY!

The reason i cannot use the pec deck is because of the specific movement. Its called anterior rotation and its the SPECIFIC movement that i know could injure my shoulder. Imagine this. Basically, point your left arm out now bend your elbow 90 degrees up. Any movement backwards will be going EXACTLY against the repair done on my shoulder.

Thus, i will feel pressure as i move up on this axis. Thats why decline doesn't bother me, flat bothers me some, incline bothers me more, military press/db shoulder press along with pec deck bother me the most.

For some its just the opposite...learn to listen to your body.

Originally Posted by soda7o (Post 65387)

my body is telling me... OUCH YOU FICKIN G IDIOT STOP THAT SHIT!:moocow:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 65363)

He wants me to avoide injury being that my energy will be low.

Originally Posted by soda7o (Post 65366)

i am learning things on here..

Originally Posted by Cakes982 (Post 65399)

LMFAO!

Also, stay away from behind the neck movements, i.e. rear lat pull downs, behind the neck military presses. These movements force the shoulders in a bad position...everything to the front.

Originally Posted by Cakes982 (Post 65399)

Hmm...thats something I never heard of. The thing I was always told to look out for was heavy training within a week after a show...being the muscle fills up with sodium/water its easy to pull something. I know you're probably all set, but if theres anything I can help ya out with let me know, even moral support.

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 65405)

Well you gotta figure, less carbs = less energy.