has nothing to do with being custom. astars shit is good fitting, good armor etc etc....but the leather quality just isnt the best. in my opinion...the stuff shreds on impact or a good slide.

Alot of it can be due tot he nature of the fall...just about any suit can be ruined if ya have a good get off...depends on where too...sliding down the front strait like Mike195 is gonna do more damage than hitting the pavement and sliding into the grass or kittly litter...

Well, I just survived hitting the pavement at 130 mph with Joe Rocket. All I have are some friction burns and one spot where the suit wore through on the mesh. I give them 2 thumbs up.

Oh, and I've crashed in Alpinestars before and I agree with Chris, in that shit burned through pretty easy. The Joe Rocket stuff seems to be tougher. Although neither is like Vanson.

true joe...but theres def a difference in leather. one suit is gonna hold up better than the other in the same exact crash under the same exact cricumstances. im sure every mfg has their pros and cons. like ant though, ive crashed numerous time in joe rocket stuff. some good 50 ft full pavement slides....and theyre just scuffed. def 2 thumbs up.

with astars....your just paying for a name....they dont have to be the best quality, because they already have an established name.

Why would you say that??
A lot of pro racers wear alpinestars. Nickey Hayden & Hopper wear them. :nod:

I say that because I can be an ass sometimes :lmao: I just assumed that that if someone is going to be riding at that level that they would be getting in to custom suits, etc.

I don't watch AMA or Moto GP so I didn't know about Hayden and Hopper using Astars :bigblush:

Ma'bad :worship:

Even then I don't think the avarage joe shmoe is gonna get the same suits these guys get...I could be wrong though.

Godd point. :nod:

I think I found the leathers I am going to buy what do you guys think?

Aegis Leather 1PC Suit

• Premium quality one piece road racing suit manufactured
in top grain Brazilian leather.
• Fully ventilated through perforations in torso, legs, and
upper arms for maximum airflow and cooling.
• ASSC (Advanced Safety Seam Construction) provides
excellent abrasion resistance and burst strength with
double-stitching throughout, and triple
stitching in all critical areas.
• Kevlar stretch panels on the inside of arms, behind
knees, and in crotch area to reduce bunching and increase
comfort and mobility.
• Elbows, shoulders, and knees have CE approved dual-
density, molded polyurethane foam armor with a hard plastic
shell for maximum impact protection and abrasion
resistance.
• Full Aerodynamic race hump incorporated into the back
of the suit for maximum performance.
• Designed to provide a snug yet comfortable fit that does
not sacrifice movement or protection.
• High quality, genuine, YKK steel zippers used
throughout.
• 3M Reflective badges for added night-time safety.
• Removable mesh liner.
• Sizes: 40-52, US

Looks good man...go for it.

Lowest price I found was 514 with shipping...im not sure though

Chris, definatly go for it!!! My 2 piece ladies Alpinestars were $678 shipped! Sounds like you're getting an awesome deal ;)

I plan on ordering it within the next two weeks, need to figure out my sizes first...

I have that same suit but in Blue/White/Black/Chrome. I have yet to wear it but have been using AGV leathers for the past 4 years and have never had a problem with them. You are getting a good deal on them also.

Thats awesome thanks for the encouraging words, I have heard nothing but good things about AGV sport so this is all the more reason to purchase!!!