Some Body Position vs. Lean Angle Info

[Cakes206]

Check it out...

[Smokes35]

Quality post...


sticky this sheet

[DougZ]

which pic is the right way??

[Cakes206]

which pic is the right way??

Which one do you think?

[DougZ]

Which one do you think?

I would think the bottom left, but he still needs to slide more off the bike on the inside.

Do I win a prize?? :)

[Cakes206]

I would think the bottom left, but he still needs to slide more off the bike on the inside.

Do I win a prize?? :)

No. Look at the description of the one next to it...Note the degree of angle difference ;)

[DougZ]

No.

No to the prize or being correct???

[Lee]

DougZ-

you are corret !! None of them are the RIGHT way.. But a combination of top right and bottom left is the right thing..

OBJECTIVE in BODY POSTION in a TURN:
I maximize the SPEED of the bike in the turn without scrificing the learn angle of the bike. So, with that being said. You want to hang off the bike and change the center of your gavity. AKA the picture in the top left. But !! You don't want to be a big parachute (like Glen Goldman) because it slows you down. BUT !! you don't want to twist back under the screen liek the bottom LEFT... (because your center of gravity is WRONG again. )

Get it ?

[John712]

Joe, in the 3rd picture (top right picture) rider hanging off below the bike.


it says doing that while your knee is down is NOT COOL. but when i did the GP MOTO in the Poconos a coach said thats a better way of doing it. less lean of the bike but hanging off the bike a lot more is better. basically whats shown in the picture is what he was doing while i was following him. whats up with that..? i didnt attempt to try it or change the was i feel comfortable on the bike but whos wrong here..? feed back please.

[IrocRob]

Whover wrote the caption says "it's not cool" SO...

Hang off like the top right photo while tucking in
as close as you can.

Unless you're on the brakes,
THEN rise up and act like a parachute.

[lrntolive]

Would someone clarify which one is correct on this? :banghead:

I personally feel whichever is more comfortable for the rider is best, although I'd say the top center picture is definitely something you do not want to do.

I think I'm more in-between the top right and bottom left image, which is what is most comfortable for me.

But, if one of them is correct, would someone please say which one it is?

Thanks!

[I Ride]

Joe, in the 3rd picture (top right picture) rider hanging off below the bike.


it says doing that while your knee is down is NOT COOL. but when i did the GP MOTO in the Poconos a coach said thats a better way of doing it. less lean of the bike but hanging off the bike a lot more is better. basically whats shown in the picture is what he was doing while i was following him. whats up with that..? i didnt attempt to try it or change the was i feel comfortable on the bike but whos wrong here..? feed back please.

he says "its not cool" cause the dude in the pic doesnt need to be leaning off that far given the lean angle of that bike (he is obviously not going very fast.


just listen to lee....

and then do the opposite of whatever he tells you if you want to go fast:lol:

[FDNYDANO18]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l3/FDNYDANO18/TPM_0269.jpg
:nopity:

[landshark]

pt1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxODoscChNo&feature=related
pt2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxb5nRufuZ8&feature=related

[High_Revs_17]

C'mon Jake, you're doing it all wrong man, it's not like you're in Blue or even racing at this point?! :P

Rider Crouched Right Down

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v190/Zakath/SAT_3929.jpg

[bubbleboys]

This is interesting, sorry thread revival I know.

But, the coaches at TPM teach you that you should be tucked in and be looking into your imaginary mirror straight on.
This necessitates your body being close to the bike like the bottom left.
Albeit, the lower left picture makes it look like the rider is crossed up but I'm now a bit confused.

[ronaldo9]

Why are you confused? The key here is not to weight the bars and keep the bike upright by "hanging off". Looking into your imaginary mirror is a great method to teach you to get off the tank and you will eventually just get your own style and do what your comfortable doing. it will all make sense once you start going faster and need the traction from the tires as you corner.

[SPL170db]

Eventually you just gotta find what works for YOU.......:D :D :D


According to that chart, all of these guys are using 'bad' body positioning


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GAIpyWQeuRk/S_4xEoWTAaI/AAAAAAAAAIc/c0IRL6nBR4c/s1600/100_4187-b.jpg


http://www.highrevs.net/motogp_gallery/troy-bayliss-sparks-wallpaper-281208-1920.jpg



http://www.amaproracing.com/images/content/story/RA-RoadAmericaSBDay21.jpg
http://www.roadcarvin.com/sites/default/files/images/Larry_Pegram_6829.preview.jpg

[ronaldo9]

Good point Kaz, I actually just learned that Larry Pegram had hip surgery early in his career from a crash and he had to change his riding style since he was not able to move the same way. Which is probably why his style is a little unorthodox today.

[Cakes206]

Good point Kaz, I actually just learned that Larry Pegram had hip surgery early in his career from a crash and he had to change his riding style since he was not able to move the same way. Which is probably why his style is a little unorthodox today.
Its not a good point IMO actually. At that level, they're also tweaking the bikes to work with the rider, investing millions.

[RCM78]

This is interesting, sorry thread revival I know.

But, the coaches at TPM teach you that you should be tucked in and be looking into your imaginary mirror straight on.
This necessitates your body being close to the bike like the bottom left.
Albeit, the lower left picture makes it look like the rider is crossed up but I'm now a bit confused.

We have over 40 coaches at TPM and your body position is a very subjective topic. So what one coach suggest's to you may not work for you and may work well for another rider...

[SPL170db]

Its not a good point IMO actually. At that level, they're also tweaking the bikes to work with the rider, investing millions.


For Larry's bike? ..... nahhhh


There's barely a thing on that bike you couldn't go out and buy. In fact everything is homologated due to the new AMA SBK rules. He was selling one on ebay for $100K last year. Suzuki was selling Mladin's K8 2009 SBK for $60K a couple years ago.

[Cakes206]

For Larry's bike? ..... nahhhh


There's barely a thing on that bike you couldn't go out and buy. In fact everything is homologated due to the new AMA SBK rules. He was selling one on ebay for $100K last year. Suzuki was selling Mladin's K8 2009 SBK for $60K a couple years ago.

Theres also MotoGP bike in the post. Also the "investing millions" doesn't mean all at once lol.

[SPL170db]

True, but Larry's BP was the "worst" :-P

[CBRBob]

Check out pics of Doohan and Duhamel..... going to tell me THEY rode wrong? lol