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Snafu
12-11-2008, 10:15 AM
Bikers won't like sound of this!
BY FRANK LOMBARDI
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Thursday, December 11th 2008, 2:18 AM
Vroooom that noisy motorcycle once too often and the city could own it.
In a new bid to stem motorcycle noise, the City Council is set to pass a bill requiring all bikes to sport tags certifying approval by the Environmental Protection Agency.
No EPA tag, you get a ticket, without the officials having to prove the bike exceeded the 80-decibel limit set by the city's noise code.
"Today we go a long way toward taking the squeal out of the hogs," said Peter Vallone (D-Queens), chairing a final bill hearing Wednesday in the Public Safety Committee.
Under the bill, expected to pass the full Council Dec. 18, a first conviction carries a maximum $1,000 fine and temporary confiscation until the penalty is paid.
A second conviction hikes the maximum fine to $2,500 and imposes permanent forfeiture.
NYPD Lt. Daniel Albano testified that existing laws require cops to catch noisy motorcyclists in the act, which is difficult and can entail potentially hazardous chases.
The new measure would let single officers on foot patrol - or other city agents - ticket parked motorcycles, he said.
It gives police "an extra tool to get at what is truly a serious problem," said Councilman Alan Gerson (D-Manhattan), who crafted the bill based on a law in use in Denver.
But biker Bill Ferraro, president of the Union Ironworkers Motorcycle Club, Local 580, testified that "it's unsafe for us to ride when the pipes are too low."
He also said the city can't close its budget gap "with confiscation of bikes and seizure."
flombardi@nydailynews.com
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/12/10/2008-12-10_bikers_wont_like_sound_of_this-2.html
carl_g
12-11-2008, 10:30 AM
more liberal gayness spreading throughout our country. http://www.ism409.com/images/ron.gif
CBRChick
12-11-2008, 10:37 AM
But biker Bill Ferraro, president of the Union Ironworkers Motorcycle Club, Local 580, testified that "it's unsafe for us to ride when the pipes are too low."
What a brilliant quote... being an unsafe rider makes you unsafe when you ride... not having low pipes... :ohmygod: Just a typical cruiser rider that equates his bike as being cool with how loud it is..
But, this new bill does not sound like fun... we had an 80 decibel law pass in the city and county of Denver, but nothing where we'd have to get an EPA sticker or parked bikes being ticketed. We can get a hefty fine for having a bike that's over 80 decibels, but I've only seen it really enforced if someone is riding like an asshat, is pulled over and the officer writes him the ticket for the pipe as well..
Ok keep your stock pipes...put them on get a tag...then put your aftermarket exhaust on and tell the dumb pigs to fuck off....or just go to the track.....and why if they propose a new law based on wanting to make the city quietier is it liberal gayness.....you get ticketed in areas of NYC for honking...what's the difference.
lateapex
12-11-2008, 12:08 PM
They better include cars and trucks exhausts in this too, just to be fair you know. Don't forget sound systems too.
Noise is noise, no matter what the source.
RCM78
12-11-2008, 02:05 PM
They better include cars and trucks exhausts in this too, just to be fair you know. Don't forget sound systems too.
Noise is noise, no matter what the source.
:nod2:
Cakes206
12-11-2008, 02:37 PM
80 db? Ant farts louder than that :crackup:
lateapex
12-11-2008, 02:49 PM
80 db? Ant farts louder than that
He might need one of these then.
http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/image/s_cork2.jpg
ronin_01r1
12-11-2008, 03:18 PM
They better include cars and trucks exhausts in this too, just to be fair you know. Don't forget sound systems too.
Noise is noise, no matter what the source.
Exactly.
fyi -
• 140 Jet engines
• 130 Shotgun firing, jet takeoff from 100 to 200 feet
• 120 Boombox, thunderclap
• 110-140 Rock concert
• 110-125 Stereos over 100 watts
• 110 Chainsaw, jackhammer
• 105 Snowmobile
• 103 Jet flyover at 1,000 feet
• 100 Garbage truck, cement mixer
• 98 Farm tractor
• 97 Newspaper press
• 85-90 Lawn mower, blender
• 70-90 Recreational vehicle, television
• 84 Diesel truck going 40 mph at 50 feet
• 80 Average city traffic, garbage disposal
• 78 Washing machine
• 75 Dishwasher
• 70 Vacuum cleaner, hair dryer
• 50-65 Normal conversation
• 50-60 Quiet office
• 40 Refrigerator humming
• 30 Whisper
• 20 Rustling leaves
• 10 Normal breathing
Source: National Institute On Deafness And Other Communications Disorders
CBRChick
12-11-2008, 03:50 PM
80 db? Ant farts louder than that :crackup:
Does that mean his ass needs an EPA tag???
Ok keep your stock pipes...put them on get a tag...then put your aftermarket exhaust on and tell the dumb pigs to fuck off....or just go to the track.....and why if they propose a new law based on wanting to make the city quietier is it liberal gayness.....you get ticketed in areas of NYC for honking...what's the difference.
Actually, it will most likely be a stamp that is put onto the exhausts... actually engraved into the exhaust. It would look something like this (which is not found on aftermarket exhausts):
http://www.schelin.org/stuff/epa.jpg
CORNBREAD
12-11-2008, 04:13 PM
more liberal gayness spreading throughout our country. http://www.ism409.com/images/ron.gif
be careful picking on ron. you might get banned like i did:(
you can do what I'm doing with my aprilia exahust and just core it. Still looks stock but basically a stright pipe.
although I don't even think my exhuast is stamped at all. I don't know i'll take a look when I'm ripping it apart next week.
breeze
12-11-2008, 05:59 PM
my thing... you know how many times loud pipes on the streets have saved lives when cars dont see you..... just my 2 cents
FDNYDANO18
12-11-2008, 06:11 PM
Don't you just LOVE it when polititians come up with ways to limit choice....and charge you for it...
Don't suppose they will be handing those "EPA" test stickers out for free either.
NYC Council...DemocRATS of course, "looking out for the common person"and screwing them, as usual
If there is an issue ,problem,thought,breath,dream....anything... TAX IT !!!!!!
The ride is accelerating, hang on tight kiddies
NYCSTRIPES
12-11-2008, 06:29 PM
Just another reason to leave NYC after retirement.
High_Revs_17
12-11-2008, 07:56 PM
Gross immaturity seems to be even more evident of spreading through this site, we're all so proud of you.
more liberal gayness spreading throughout our country. http://www.ism409.com/images/ron.gif
High_Revs_17
12-11-2008, 10:30 PM
One taking responsibility for their actions equals adulthood, it's just that easy.
be careful picking on ron. you might get banned like i did:(
John712
12-12-2008, 01:22 AM
DAFUK!!
Everything I own is ---- LOUD!!!
My Harley has people spinning their heads at times. And my truck is no better!! FUCK THESE PEOPLE!!!
sonny
12-12-2008, 08:44 AM
At the end of the day, lame or not, this bill makes sense.
You have the stupid people that ride through the streets at WOT making all kinds of noise. Its not necessary. That whole "loud pipes save lives" thing, is a crock of shit.
I wonder why they dont attack ricer boys, or muscle cars next?
Quit the bitching, do something.
FDNYDANO18
12-12-2008, 02:21 PM
At the end of the day, lame or not, this bill makes sense.
You have the stupid people that ride through the streets at WOT making all kinds of noise. Its not necessary. That whole "loud pipes save lives" thing, is a crock of shit.
I wonder why they dont attack ricer boys, or muscle cars next?
Quit the bitching, do something.
Soo..... I see your "opinion" shall rule us all.... Good thing you know better how to live our lives than we do..I'm quite relieved. The presure of deciding how best to do live free was too much for me....
People determining every action and choice that people can make is un-american
In MY opinion.
Soo..... I see your "opinion" shall rule us all.... Good thing you know better how to live our lives than we do..I'm quite relieved. The presure of deciding how best to do live free was too much for me....
People determining every action and choice that people can make is un-american
In MY opinion.
Based on your opinion I should be able to run out and shot people....the law is being put forth to limit noise in the city...I don't see anything wrong with that the problem with the law is that it is singling out a single group of people. The law needs to state no vehicle is permitted to be above the recommended decible level. Not just motorcycles.
And who the fuck wants to ride in NYC anyway.
CBRBob
12-12-2008, 09:23 PM
more liberal gayness spreading throughout our country. http://www.ism409.com/images/ron.gif
+1 and coming from a democrat, no kidding.....
bondo
12-12-2008, 10:52 PM
+1000
Oh please mr. gov't, please protect me from those nasty bikers and charge them for the EPA stickers too. tax them, TAX THEM !
oh yeah and bail me out when I screw up and buy a house I can't afford
and don't let me be fired when I screw up at work constantly blah blah blah.
:nopity:
FDNYDANO18
12-13-2008, 01:03 AM
Based on your opinion I should be able to run out and shot people....the law is being put forth to limit noise in the city...I don't see anything wrong with that the problem with the law is that it is singling out a single group of people. The law needs to state no vehicle is permitted to be above the recommended decible level. Not just motorcycles.
And who the fuck wants to ride in NYC anyway.
:moocow:
great analogy....pure Genius :crackup:
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