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Kennedy
01-06-2008, 11:27 PM
January 6, 2008
McGovern: Time to impeach Bush
Posted: 08:42 PM ET


McGovern is calling for Bush and Cheney to be impeached.
WASHINGTON (CNN) – George McGovern, the Democratic Party's 1972 nominee for president, is calling on Congress to impeach President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney.

And in an editorial in Sunday's Washington Post, McGovern writes the case for impeaching the current president is "far stronger" than the case made against former President Richard Nixon — the man who soundly defeated McGovern in the general election match up.

"Bush and Cheney are clearly guilty of numerous impeachable offenses," McGovern writes. "They have repeatedly violated the Constitution. They have transgressed national and international law. They have lied to the American people time after time.

"Their conduct and their barbaric policies have reduced our beloved country to a historic low in the eyes of people around the world," he continued.

McGovern, a former three-term senator who ran for president on a fiercely anti-war platform, also called the administration's policy in Iraq a "a murderous, illegal, nonsensical war" in violation of international law.

"This reckless disregard for life and property, as well as constitutional law, has been accompanied by the abuse of prisoners, including systematic torture, in direct violation of the Geneva Conventions of 1949," he added.

But McGovern acknowledged there is little bipartisan support for an impeachment effort, blaming "superficial partisanship" among Republicans, and a "a lack of courage and statesmanship on the part of too many Democratic politicians."

– CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

Filed under: Dick Cheney • George McGovern • President Bush



http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/06/mcgovern-time-to-impeach-bush/

Should have been done much sooner.

carl_g
01-07-2008, 10:59 AM
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/06/mcgovern-time-to-impeach-bush/

Should have been done much sooner.
OK Mr political scholar...
Please explain to the group what good this will do for the country. The guy's term is almost up. It is in the country's best interest to let bush finish his term.
At least the guy can make a decision, whether it be good or bad..unlike his wishy washy democrat socialist fuckfaces.. The whole country is so divided now because of the "pussification" of America..the bleeding hearts...nobody wants to deal with any consequences they just want things to magically be better..and you think this is good for the country??? Did you even vote?

Kennedy
01-07-2008, 11:26 AM
OK Mr political scholar...
Please explain to the group what good this will do for the country. The guy's term is almost up. It is in the country's best interest to let bush finish his term.
At least the guy can make a decision, whether it be good or bad..unlike his wishy washy democrat socialist fuckfaces.. The whole country is so divided now because of the "pussification" of America..the bleeding hearts...nobody wants to deal with any consequences they just want things to magically be better..and you think this is good for the country??? Did you even vote?

Like I said should have been done much sooner didn't say anymore or less. It's to late now like you pointed out. I'm glad to see how I can push your buttons if I ever need to in the future ;)

CBRBob
01-07-2008, 11:31 AM
Time to impeach Corzine you mean.

Kennedy
01-07-2008, 11:34 AM
Time to impeach Corzine you mean.

:nod2:

jcblitz
01-07-2008, 12:13 PM
OK Mr political scholar...
Please explain to the group what good this will do for the country. The guy's term is almost up. It is in the country's best interest to let bush finish his term.
At least the guy can make a decision, whether it be good or bad..unlike his wishy washy democrat socialist fuckfaces.. The whole country is so divided now because of the "pussification" of America..the bleeding hearts...nobody wants to deal with any consequences they just want things to magically be better..and you think this is good for the country??? Did you even vote?

You're playing partisan politics and it's obvious from your mention of the democrats. If someone shows constant disregard for the most basic forms of freedoms they were put in office to uphold, they have to go. Impeaching Bush and anyone else who showed flagrant (and illegal) disregard will at least send a message to the rest of the world that America will not stand for this behavior, no matter how long a remaining term might be. I'm not saying a democratic leader will be any better (I don't like either of the parties), but any person in any public position must be accountable and questionable for their actions, including and starting at the very top. You're right, things don't get magically better, which is why riding it out won't work either. BTW, I'm registered republican and I voted against Bush twice.

Cakes206
01-07-2008, 12:17 PM
:popcorn:

Kennedy
01-07-2008, 12:23 PM
You're playing partisan politics and it's obvious from your mention of the democrats. If someone shows constant disregard for the most basic forms of freedoms they were put in office to uphold, they have to go. Impeaching Bush and anyone else who showed flagrant (and illegal) disregard will at least send a message to the rest of the world that America will not stand for this behavior, no matter how long a remaining term might be. I'm not saying a democratic leader will be any better (I don't like either of the parties), but any person in any public position must be accountable and questionable for their actions, including and starting at the very top. You're right, things don't get magically better, which is why riding it out won't work either. BTW, I'm registered republican and I voted against Bush twice.

I didn't want argue anything besides it should have come alot sooner. However he is right it doesn't matter if it is the democrats, republicans or green party in office. Partisan Politics does not matter when it comes to violation of the Geneva Convention, going to war without having a declaration of war from Congress and violations of U.N. Charter and International Law.

If they violate the Constitution they should be impeached and held accountable for their actions. Case Closed.

carl_g
01-07-2008, 12:37 PM
Like I said should have been done much sooner didn't say anymore or less. It's to late now like you pointed out. I'm glad to see how I can push your buttons if I ever need to in the future ;)


You can't make some blanket statement like that and expect no one to say anything about it.:ohmygod:

carl_g
01-07-2008, 12:52 PM
You're playing partisan politics and it's obvious from your mention of the democrats. If someone shows constant disregard for the most basic forms of freedoms they were put in office to uphold, they have to go. Impeaching Bush and anyone else who showed flagrant (and illegal) disregard will at least send a message to the rest of the world that America will not stand for this behavior, no matter how long a remaining term might be. I'm not saying a democratic leader will be any better (I don't like either of the parties), but any person in any public position must be accountable and questionable for their actions, including and starting at the very top. You're right, things don't get magically better, which is why riding it out won't work either. BTW, I'm registered republican and I voted against Bush twice.
Dude it should be obvious from my post that I don't believe in the democratic mindset..In saying that, I don't like Bush. He doesn't come across as the sharpest tool in the shed. But to start screaming about impeachment is ridiculous. It is just as ridiculous as when people were all about impeaching Clinton near the end of his term. Is this a trend that we will have to face every 4 years from now on?

carl_g
01-07-2008, 12:53 PM
If they violate the Constitution they should be impeached and held accountable for their actions. Case Closed.
What did he do to violate the constitution?

jcblitz
01-07-2008, 01:15 PM
Where the hell is das uberdog when you need him.

CBRBob
01-07-2008, 01:18 PM
Rather have Bush than Socialists, oops I mean democrats. :moocow:

Cakes206
01-07-2008, 01:21 PM
Where the hell is das uberdog when you need him.
Oh man lol.

carl_g
01-07-2008, 02:05 PM
Where the hell is das uberdog when you need him.
LOL! :roflmao:

Actually I am not some crazy right wing republican..

However, I don't feel like I need to pull the weight of others by paying more taxes for "programs to help the needy." If I want to contribute to charity I should be able to do so where I see fit.
I also like to have more rights and land access then woodsy the owl.

Ant
01-07-2008, 02:10 PM
What did he do to violate the constitution?

The Patriot Act. But by that standard we would need to impeach all the congressmen who voted for it too. That shit needs to be thrown out ASAP.

SPRHK
01-07-2008, 02:47 PM
I hear Bush runs with scissors in his hands, and we all know Cheney shoots people...............................:nod2:

John712
01-07-2008, 02:53 PM
I didn't want argue anything besides it should have come alot sooner. However he is right it doesn't matter if it is the democrats, republicans or green party in office. Partisan Politics does not matter when it comes to violation of the Geneva Convention, going to war without having a declaration of war from Congress and violations of U.N. Charter and International Law.

If they violate the Constitution they should be impeached and held accountable for their actions. Case Closed.



A month after he Bush elected, the libs were crying for impeachment. But I agree with one thing this idiot says. When he said "in direct violation of the Geneva Conventions of 1949" According to the Geneva convention, any captured combatant not in uniform can be shot at the time of capture. Granted, I'm not happy with Bush either, but the libs have been crying this long before 9/11.

Mike295
01-07-2008, 04:25 PM
its simple
it comes down to super huge multinational trilliondollar corporations that love bush. they fuck the middle class over with a huge dick. Dont give me this shit about more demand for oil thats just fucking gayer then smokes socks. clinton was in office i was paying under 1.50 per gallon. bush is in office.. i have topay 2.75 +// so he can eat my shit.

Kennedy
01-07-2008, 04:55 PM
A month after he Bush elected, the libs were crying for impeachment. But I agree with one thing this idiot says. When he said "in direct violation of the Geneva Conventions of 1949" According to the Geneva convention, any captured combatant not in uniform can be shot at the time of capture. Granted, I'm not happy with Bush either, but the libs have been crying this long before 9/11.

You are refering to the idiot as McGovern right? :roflmao:

John712
01-07-2008, 04:58 PM
You are refering to the idiot as McGovern right? :roflmao:

LOL absolutely, I just noticed how it looked after I just re read it :lol:

Kennedy
01-07-2008, 05:01 PM
LOL absolutely, I just noticed how it looked after I just re read it :lol:

Its ok you can call me an idiot and I'll still love you....only because we have spanish heritage uniting us till the eternal end :LOL:

Ant
01-07-2008, 06:06 PM
its simple
it comes down to super huge multinational trilliondollar corporations that love bush. they fuck the middle class over with a huge dick. Dont give me this shit about more demand for oil thats just fucking gayer then smokes socks. clinton was in office i was paying under 1.50 per gallon. bush is in office.. i have topay 2.75 +// so he can eat my shit.

It's not Bush, it's all the big time speculators on the street.

High_Revs_17
01-07-2008, 06:38 PM
It's pointless to argue what should've been done, the topic of discussion should be what will Obama or Hillary do? :ohmygod:

AK-AK-AK-AK-AK!!!

Kennedy
01-07-2008, 09:26 PM
It's pointless to argue what should've been done, the topic of discussion should be what will Obama or Hillary do? :ohmygod:

AK-AK-AK-AK-AK!!!

We learn from mistakes ;)


(At least thats how it's supposed to happen)

Cakes206
01-07-2008, 10:05 PM
We learn from mistakes ;)
Some people never learn.

CBRBob
01-07-2008, 10:28 PM
Yea, the dems go RoBBin Hooding it again and again. More of my $$ going to some shit who wants to collect their whole life.

carl_g
01-07-2008, 10:44 PM
Yea, the dems go RoBBin Hooding it again and again. More of my $$ going to some shit who wants to collect their whole life.
+1 none of those things actually help they bread laziness.

tommymac
01-07-2008, 10:55 PM
its simple
it comes down to super huge multinational trilliondollar corporations that love bush. they fuck the middle class over with a huge dick. Dont give me this shit about more demand for oil thats just fucking gayer then smokes socks. clinton was in office i was paying under 1.50 per gallon. bush is in office.. i have topay 2.75 +// so he can eat my shit.

I would be happy paying 2.75 its up to 3.25 here:arrr:

Tom

Mike295
01-08-2008, 11:26 AM
+1 none of those things actually help they bread laziness.

middle clas gets the royal fuck job all the time.

jcblitz
01-08-2008, 11:53 AM
Yea, the dems go RoBBin Hooding it again and again. More of my $$ going to some shit who wants to collect their whole life.

I always find it funny how the large majority of evangelicals are Republican and 80% of them voted for Bush. I thought Jesus loved the poor, I guess just not enough to give them money.

BTW, I hate welfare. My mother-in-law was telling me about a Russian lady she saw wearing a fur coat buying fillet mignon with food stamps. If I was the guy working, I would have refused to sell her it.

carl_g
01-08-2008, 01:31 PM
I always find it funny how the large majority of evangelicals are Republican and 80% of them voted for Bush. I thought Jesus loved the poor, I guess just not enough to give them money.


LOL! That is funny! :lol:

CBRBob
01-09-2008, 08:10 AM
I always find it funny how the large majority of evangelicals are Republican and 80% of them voted for Bush. I thought Jesus loved the poor, I guess just not enough to give them money.

That is exactly the wrong way to interpret the logic. The proper way would be knowing they vote Republican so they can KEEP more of their income and THEY can give it to the poor THEY see fit.

Socialist/democrats want as much from everyone as possible so they can give a smaller portion of it back to them. It makes the idiots feel as if govt. is actually giving them something for free.

Morons who wayy overpay their income taxes only to get a huge refund come April are the same dopes. You are giving the govt. an interest free loan all year, only to just get it back with no gain. It makes you the dumb in-law who loans famil money.

People think the motorcycle safety classes that the state offers are free. Nope, WE are all ALL paying for a very few to get a free class. The money is SUPPOSED to be meant to reduce the cost for EVERYONE who take the class in this state, not free for some. FYI, motorcyclists in NJ voted to have that money added to the license fee to reduce the cost for everyone and the socialists in the state bastardized the program so they could have their own sandbox to play in.

Socialism.........Robin Hooding :moocow:

jcblitz
01-09-2008, 10:02 AM
That is exactly the wrong way to interpret the logic. The proper way would be knowing they vote Republican so they can KEEP more of their income and THEY can give it to the poor THEY see fit.

That's a straw man fallacy. (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html) But the issue with that is they'll only help people they want to help, not the people that necessarily need it the most. So they can discriminate on any basis they want. I'm not saying the current system works, but allowing the "haves" to choose which "have nots" not help will widen the divide. If a needy woman had an abortion because her abusing ex-husband raped her, they won't help her. In the eyes of god that's a double sin. No help for you!

CBRBob
01-09-2008, 10:11 AM
We arent discussing abortion, we are discussing money.

FDNYDANO18
01-13-2008, 03:11 AM
I didn't want argue anything besides it should have come alot sooner. However he is right it doesn't matter if it is the democrats, republicans or green party in office. Partisan Politics does not matter when it comes to violation of the Geneva Convention, going to war without having a declaration of war from Congress and violations of U.N. Charter and International Law.

If they violate the Constitution they should be impeached and held accountable for their actions. Case Closed.
:jerkit: The "UN Charter and International Law" do NOT supersede US law and sovereignty. The Geneva convention only applies to "Lawful combatants in the Uniform of the sovereign state whose army they serve in". Terrorist scum-bags don't count or get covered.
:nuts: :nuts: :nuts: